House passes SAVE Act, mandating proof of citizenship for voter registration

The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 requires states to verify voter identity and information and The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 explicitly prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections.

 

From this link:

 

Four Things to Know about Noncitizen Voting | Bipartisan Policy Center

 

"Have there been documented cases of noncitizens voting?

 

The Heritage Foundation’s analysis of legal actions regarding election conduct found only 24 instances of noncitizens voting between 2003 and 2023. A study conducted by the Brennan Center for Justice analyzing 23.5 million votes across 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election concluded that there were approximately 30 instances of noncitizens casting votes. Any instance of illegally cast ballots by noncitizens has been investigated by the appropriate authorities, and there is no evidence that these votes—or any other instances of voter fraud—have been significant enough to impact any election’s outcome."

 

The Heritage Foundation, which has created Project 2025, has found 24 instances of noncitizens voting in a 20-year time period. 

 

In the 2016 election, 23,500,000 votes were analyzed, and there were 30 instances of noncitizens voting which comes out to .000128%, in the real world, that's really good. I conclude the GOP is virtue signaling, maybe they should try and solve real problems and take up the Senate immigration bill.

 

 

Edited on Jul 12, 2024 7:06am

Thanks for posting that link, Max.  

Originally posted by: Edso

Thanks for posting that link, Max.  


Here is an article about Ohio and the 2020 election.  https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2021-07-12/ohios-elections-chief-wants-117-non-citizens-investigated-for-election-fraud

Originally posted by: Robert Davis

Here is an article about Ohio and the 2020 election.  https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2021-07-12/ohios-elections-chief-wants-117-non-citizens-investigated-for-election-fraud


Thanks for the article, here's the follow-up to the referral to investigate the allegations made by LaRose.

 

Ohio Sec. of State LaRose flagged more than 520 cases of noncitizen voter fraud. Only one was legit. • Ohio Capital Journal


Originally posted by: Robert Davis

Here is an article about Ohio and the 2020 election.  https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2021-07-12/ohios-elections-chief-wants-117-non-citizens-investigated-for-election-fraud


Wow, thanks for the link, Robert.

 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 requires states to verify voter identity and information and The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 explicitly prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections.

 

From this link:

 

Four Things to Know about Noncitizen Voting | Bipartisan Policy Center

 

"Have there been documented cases of noncitizens voting?

 

The Heritage Foundation’s analysis of legal actions regarding election conduct found only 24 instances of noncitizens voting between 2003 and 2023. A study conducted by the Brennan Center for Justice analyzing 23.5 million votes across 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election concluded that there were approximately 30 instances of noncitizens casting votes. Any instance of illegally cast ballots by noncitizens has been investigated by the appropriate authorities, and there is no evidence that these votes—or any other instances of voter fraud—have been significant enough to impact any election’s outcome."

 

The Heritage Foundation, which has created Project 2025, has found 24 instances of noncitizens voting in a 20-year time period. 

 

In the 2016 election, 23,500,000 votes were analyzed, and there were 30 instances of noncitizens voting which comes out to .000128%, in the real world, that's really good. I conclude the GOP is virtue signaling, maybe they should try and solve real problems and take up the Senate immigration bill.

 

 


I checked out that Heritage Foundation site and noticed that most of the illegal voting was by people who were felons or sex offenders, not illegals.   

 

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Do you think the SAVE Act will eliminate the possibility of even one non-citizen voting? It's already against the law, it seems like this is virtue signaling from the GOP. Maybe they should take a look at the immigration bill that passed in the Senate, that would help as well and might repair our really bad immigration system.


This stupid non-issue is the same nonsense the election deniers pitch. It can be refuted very easily: why would anyone commit multiple felonies by casting a fraudulent vote? The answer: no one with any sense would. There's very, very little to gain and a lot to lose.

 

Of course, then we can move to the question of, if an unregistered individual managed to cast a ballot, would that ballot be counted, or would it be invalidated? Answer: invalidated.

 

I can't believe that the RepubliQ still flogs this non-issue. Of course, as I've already said, their true goal is to make it that much harder to vote, not to protect the holy sanctity of the voting process.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

This stupid non-issue is the same nonsense the election deniers pitch. It can be refuted very easily: why would anyone commit multiple felonies by casting a fraudulent vote? The answer: no one with any sense would. There's very, very little to gain and a lot to lose.

 

Of course, then we can move to the question of, if an unregistered individual managed to cast a ballot, would that ballot be counted, or would it be invalidated? Answer: invalidated.

 

I can't believe that the RepubliQ still flogs this non-issue. Of course, as I've already said, their true goal is to make it that much harder to vote, not to protect the holy sanctity of the voting process.


Not everyone has good sense, there seems to be a certain subset of folks lacking good sense.

 

Former Colorado GOP chairman sentenced for voter fraud - CBS News

I've already said, their true goal is to make it that much harder to vote, not to protect the holy sanctity of the voting process.

 

When Georgia passed their voter id law liberals said it was racist & voter participation would go down.  Since then it has gone up.

 

80% of voters support voter id

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/21/80-of-americans-support-voter-id-rules-but-fewer-worried-about-fraud-poll-finds/

 

46 of 47 European countries have voter id

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2021/06/04/study-46-out-of-47-european-countries-require-photo-id-to-vote-n2590454

 

Over 1,500 cases of voter fraud. with almost 1,300 convictions

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/connecticut-democrats-charged-bridgeport-mayor-b2560786.html

 

Why are democrats so afraid of voter id?

Originally posted by: tom

I've already said, their true goal is to make it that much harder to vote, not to protect the holy sanctity of the voting process.

 

When Georgia passed their voter id law liberals said it was racist & voter participation would go down.  Since then it has gone up.

 

80% of voters support voter id

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/21/80-of-americans-support-voter-id-rules-but-fewer-worried-about-fraud-poll-finds/

 

46 of 47 European countries have voter id

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2021/06/04/study-46-out-of-47-european-countries-require-photo-id-to-vote-n2590454

 

Over 1,500 cases of voter fraud. with almost 1,300 convictions

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/connecticut-democrats-charged-bridgeport-mayor-b2560786.html

 

Why are democrats so afraid of voter id?


Stupid Tom, in the past--many times--I've asked you how an "illegal" voter could have his vote actually validated and counted. Then, when you've weaseled away from that question, I've asked you another: why would anyone cast a fraudulent vote, committing at least five felonies in the process, with little or nothing to be gained from it? You've weaseled away from that one, too.

 

So unless you have the balls to answer these questions, you're not entitled to bleat about so-called "voter fraud." Put your mouth back into Trump's service--slurp, slurp--and don't spew your idiocy here.

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