I don't hate immigrants--even "illegals"

Tom's first complaint on this thread was the article was too broad.   Tom's second complaint on this thread is the article is too specific.

 

My first complaint on this thread is Tom is a crybaby who has trouble with facts.

Originally posted by: tom

An article with 1 person 


Gee, isn't stupid Tom the one who likes to post stories about single individuals as PROOF!!! that ALL IMMERGENTS ARE CRIMINALS?

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I live to serve !

Article with specific satement and actual farmer on record.

Workers either deported or too scared to show up for work at Texas farms

 


The Turd has never gone grocery shopping in his life. Someone born with a silver spoon up his butt shouldn't be allowed to make decisions that affect average people. Also--Trump has never been a legitimate employer and has never actually, honestly run a business, so he has no idea what happens when you destroy a workforce.

 

What an asshole.

When I was in high school it seemed everyone had a job. Grocery store, restaurants, clothing store, , farm work or mowing lawns.  Now that we have grandkids, I am seeing many high schoollers not even wanting to drive let alone work.  They don't seem to date, so they don;t need money for clothes or movies or ice cream.  The kids are not going to the skating ring or putt putt, they are just hanging out or watching videos on the phone.  It seems very rare these days to find a kid that is motivated .


Originally posted by: Brent Kline

When I was in high school it seemed everyone had a job. Grocery store, restaurants, clothing store, , farm work or mowing lawns.  Now that we have grandkids, I am seeing many high schoollers not even wanting to drive let alone work.  They don't seem to date, so they don;t need money for clothes or movies or ice cream.  The kids are not going to the skating ring or putt putt, they are just hanging out or watching videos on the phone.  It seems very rare these days to find a kid that is motivated .


I think that's been said, in one way or another, ever since Og and Thooma were raising young Thak and teaching him to hunt wooly mammoths. There's realistically no way you can get a hormone-soaked adolescent to think about the future, or to forgo present pleasures. But somehow, it all turns out OK.

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

When I was in high school it seemed everyone had a job. Grocery store, restaurants, clothing store, , farm work or mowing lawns.  Now that we have grandkids, I am seeing many high schoollers not even wanting to drive let alone work.  They don't seem to date, so they don;t need money for clothes or movies or ice cream.  The kids are not going to the skating ring or putt putt, they are just hanging out or watching videos on the phone.  It seems very rare these days to find a kid that is motivated .


Oh, Brent, so true.  I remember the roller skating rink (birthday parties there often), putt putt, trampoline, and more.  Of course we didn't have cell phones, video games, those things to soften the brain.  Built in baby sitters. 

 

Parents put a limit on how much TV, otherwise get outta the house or I'll put you to work.

 

Re baby sitting, my mom put me to making cards with my name, phone number (house phone of course), etc. to call me for baby sitting; rang doorbells to introduce myself and hand out the cards.  Sure, just 50 cents an hour but it was good money back then, and you learned patience with younger children plus the pride of being put in charge of the house other than your own, and its kids, earning your own money, etc.   My folks did monitor who I was sitting for, but somehow we knew most on our street or any in church.  My older sister and I both did baby sitting. 

 

Candy 

Honestly, from what I noticed the fast food places will hire teenaged school kids only as a last resort. It is because they don't have availability to work lunch or breakfast unless school isn't in session.

 

Same goes for grocery stores and c-stores. The teenagers can't ring up alcohol so somebody has to be working with them that is old enough to ring the stuff up. Then a lot of kids are in sports, academic clubs or other school activities that reduce their availability. With all the restrictions it is rarely worthwhile to hire 15, 16 & 17 year olds. 

There were a lot less rules when we were kids and that is why so many of us had after school and summer jobs.

 

Thats also why the immigrants aren't replaceable as there is nobody willing or able to do hard physical labor for minimum or near minimum wage. 

Edited on Jun 20, 2025 5:49pm
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Oh, Brent, so true.  I remember the roller skating rink (birthday parties there often), putt putt, trampoline, and more.  Of course we didn't have cell phones, video games, those things to soften the brain.  Built in baby sitters. 

 

Parents put a limit on how much TV, otherwise get outta the house or I'll put you to work.

 

Re baby sitting, my mom put me to making cards with my name, phone number (house phone of course), etc. to call me for baby sitting; rang doorbells to introduce myself and hand out the cards.  Sure, just 50 cents an hour but it was good money back then, and you learned patience with younger children plus the pride of being put in charge of the house other than your own, and its kids, earning your own money, etc.   My folks did monitor who I was sitting for, but somehow we knew most on our street or any in church.  My older sister and I both did baby sitting. 

 

Candy 


Those were the days.  My brothers and I would run around town and offer to mow people's lawn for $5.....front and back, on the weekends.  We would do 4 or 5 houses in a day sometimes.  Almost always they would give us an extra dollar tip since there were 3 of us, so we'd each make 2 bucks per house.  

 

After that we got jobs working in grocery stores in our hometown, or eventually in restaurants as busboys when we could drive.  We were always on the hustle (legally) to make some extra cash when we could.  

I think a lot of jobs kids used to do, including myself, have been taken by adults as side hustles or even full time work. 40+ years ago I mowed lawns. The biggest and longest running yard I had was for 5 hours work and it paid $35 in the early 1980s.  My dad would drop me off along with a snapper comet, a push mower and a weed eater.

 

I haven't been able to keep my elderly mom's yard up this year as I have been incredibly busy. She hired a guy that was three years older than me when I was in high school as we rode the bus together when we were kids.  40+ years later he charges her $35 to cut her yard the same price I charged back in 1980 - 1983. 

 

He has a comerical zero turn and it takes him about 20 minutes. He does 10 - 15 yards a day. The point being a lot of what we used to think of as kids jobs aren't economically viable for kids as they are on a much different scale now. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited on Jun 20, 2025 6:17pm
Originally posted by: Mark

I think a lot of jobs kids used to do, including myself, have been taken by adults as side hustles or even full time work. 40+ years ago I mowed lawns. The biggest and longest running yard I had was for 5 hours work and it paid $35 in the early 1980s.  My dad would drop me off along with a snapper comet, a push mower and a weed eater.

 

I haven't been able to keep my elderly mom's yard up this year as I have been incredibly busy. She hired a guy that was three years older than me when I was in high school as we rode the bus together when we were kids.  40+ years later he charges her $35 to cut her yard the same price I charged back in 1980 - 1983. 

 

He has a comerical zero turn and it takes him about 20 minutes. He does 10 - 15 yards a day. The point being a lot of what we used to think of as kids jobs aren't economically viable for kids as they are on a much different scale now. 

 

 

 

 

 


True.  It seems Hispanic adults have the corner on yard work now instead of teens.

 

Yesterday I was chatting with my neighbor and a school bus drove by.  Here it is way into June, so I asked why a school bus right now?  He reminded me summer school.  Oh, crap, summer school, yeah.  Dreaded by one and all.  

 

Heck, in my day, if you had to go to summer school it was the parents' job to get you there and back.  I would be sure that wouldn't happen...I'd never hear the end of it.

 

Candy

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