I love the back and forth on this forum

Originally posted by: David Miller

There was no bribe or extortiuon. Made up lies.


Uhhhh...aside from the mountain of evidence showing that there was indeed bribery and extortion by Trump...how do YOU know that there wasn't? Were you in the White House, perched on Trump's shoulder, for the last several months?

 

You know, Stalker, it's pretty limp-dick ineffective for you to continually bleat LIES LIES LIES about stuff you don't like. Face it, be a man, your hero is a criminal.

 The only mountain here is the pile of BS you spew.

Edited on Nov 20, 2019 5:47pm

Everyone knows that Hunter Biden had no qualifications for the job he attained. That is not the question here. However, his “wacky” old man bragging that he WAS withholding money unless a prosecutor was fired should be a problem! The dumbass is even on tape bragging about.

once the Democrats run out of bullshit to keep investigating it will be a turn of the tables. Time for us to start investigating the Dems and the 2016 election bullshit.

...is “wacky” old man bragging that he WAS withholding money unless a prosecutor was fired should be a problem! 

 

That is a nutty conspiracy theory. 1. It was already US policy to withhold the aid. 2. The aid was being withheld because the IMF, and the US thought that the then Ukraine prosecutor was too weak on corruption.

 

But even suppose you are 100% right, it makes no difference as to whether or not Trump committed high crimes. If you get charged with drunk driving do you show up in court and say my neighbor drove drunk two weeks ago and nobody stopped him, therefore, I am innocent? No, of course, you don't. What your neighbor did two weeks ago has nothing to do with what you did.  You are making the same illogical argument that somehow Trump is innocent because you believe Joe Biden did something wrong. 

 

Trump already tried to get the US government to investigate the Bidens. Government officials, experts in his own Administration and even Bill Barr said there was nothing there. That it was a "debunked conspiracy theory." Trump's unwavering belief in a cable news conspiracy theory and a desire to rig the 2020 election drove him to commit crimes. Accept that he is a crook and move on.

Edited on Nov 20, 2019 6:34pm

Quit making asinine comparisons - Biden bragged about his corrupt actions. President Trump did not demand any quid pro quo. 

Nope, I am showing people how asinine the argument that somebody else did something wrong so I am innocent is. If what Biden did is wrong, how come Bill Barr didn't have the Justice Department open an investigation? That would be the procedure if you think somebody did something wrong. You don't go to a foreign government and bribe them to investigate a U.S. citizen especially your political opponent. 

 

I know it is hard for you David, but it is time for you to put your big girl panties on and admit Trump's been caught committing crimes. 

Edited on Nov 20, 2019 7:08pm

The whole DemocRat investigation is a farce. You know it and everyone with half a brain knows it. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

The whole DemocRat investigation is a farce. You know it and everyone with half a brain knows it. 


David, you have really lost it now that your boy has been caught. 

Originally posted by: Mark

...is “wacky” old man bragging that he WAS withholding money unless a prosecutor was fired should be a problem! 

 

That is a nutty conspiracy theory. 1. It was already US policy to withhold the aid. 2. The aid was being withheld because the IMF, and the US thought that the then Ukraine prosecutor was too weak on corruption.

 

But even suppose you are 100% right, it makes no difference as to whether or not Trump committed high crimes. If you get charged with drunk driving do you show up in court and say my neighbor drove drunk two weeks ago and nobody stopped him, therefore, I am innocent? No, of course, you don't. What your neighbor did two weeks ago has nothing to do with what you did.  You are making the same illogical argument that somehow Trump is innocent because you believe Joe Biden did something wrong. 

 

Trump already tried to get the US government to investigate the Bidens. Government officials, experts in his own Administration and even Bill Barr said there was nothing there. That it was a "debunked conspiracy theory." Trump's unwavering belief in a cable news conspiracy theory and a desire to rig the 2020 election drove him to commit crimes. Accept that he is a crook and move on.


Sorry Mark, you have this totally wrong. I am not giving Trump any “ free pass” on what he is facing. Are you saying Biden did not make this claim about the prosecutor? If so, you have been in your basement far to long. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!

The IG is going to have plenty on crooked Dems when his report comes out mid-December.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Yeah, but here's the thing-   You have to be a "witness" to be called as a witness. 

 

For example, I did not testify in the OJ trial because I did not witness any of the alleged crime.

 

Hunter Biden is not being called as a witness in the impeachment hearings because as much as Republicans want to change the subject of the trial the fact is he has nothing to do with the alleged crime of Trump using national security in exchange for a public smearing of a perceived political opponent.

 

If Republicans or the department of Justice really believe a crime was committed by Hunter Biden they are free to open an investigation into that.   In the meantime, his relevance to the subjected impeachment hearings is as relevant as my testimony in the OJ trial.

 

The president, his chief of staff, state dept head, and NSA advisor all have direct knowledge of the events being discussed in the trial and have no constituional grounds to avoid the subpoenas.   But they are anyway with the (correct) inference that Democrats wont spend 10 months in court fighting it during an election year.   


If Biden committed cimes, PJ is saying that he shouldn't be investigated because he's running for office.  That seems odd.

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