I met a MAGA today playing VP and we found some common ground

Originally posted by: Mark

It was a good conversation because I didn't react negatively. I suspect she was not a social media user so her brain hadn't rotted unlike so many of those MAGAs that are conspiracy kooks.  She told me she thinks Texas is turning blue and will be blue in ten years.  She thought Harris had a 20% chance of winning Texas.

 

In real life, I like to engage people and be polite.  I like it when someone with different views and experiences tells me their story.  It is amazing what happens when you are willing to listen. I made a choice at the end of the pandemic to be more outgoing and friendly towards people in everyday life. It has worked out.   For example, the employees at every convenience store in town give me free food and fountain sodas. I have received two free room upgrades and had resort fees waived by simply being nice and polite.  When people ahead of me in line complain about the lines or whatever else is going on, I smile and say, I am sorry you are having a bad day. Forget the $20 trick just be nice and polite. 

 

And the amazing thing is I feel so much better.  It really is nice to be nice. 

 

 

 

 


100% spot on Mark.

Originally posted by: Mark

It was a good conversation because I didn't react negatively. I suspect she was not a social media user so her brain hadn't rotted unlike so many of those MAGAs that are conspiracy kooks.  She told me she thinks Texas is turning blue and will be blue in ten years.  She thought Harris had a 20% chance of winning Texas.

 

In real life, I like to engage people and be polite.  I like it when someone with different views and experiences tells me their story.  It is amazing what happens when you are willing to listen. I made a choice at the end of the pandemic to be more outgoing and friendly towards people in everyday life. It has worked out.   For example, the employees at every convenience store in town give me free food and fountain sodas. I have received two free room upgrades and had resort fees waived by simply being nice and polite.  When people ahead of me in line complain about the lines or whatever else is going on, I smile and say, I am sorry you are having a bad day. Forget the $20 trick just be nice and polite. 

 

And the amazing thing is I feel so much better.  It really is nice to be nice. 

 

 

 

 


I suppose that in 1930s Germany, many non-Nazis found that their Nazi neighbors were pleasant, engaging, polite, and interesting. That's because they never saw them happily bayoneting Jews or laughing as they were beaten senseless in the street.

 

Likewise, I'm acquainted with many MAGAs. They're usually pleasant folks--at least until the conversation lurches toward politics. Then they start spouting the dogma and lying through their teeth. The transition is often shocking and abrupt. I'm forced to conclude that Trumpism is a mental disease, which is actually more charitable than concluding that these Trumpers were normal people who deliberately chose to go wackadoodle.

 

Certainly, one should always be polite, even towards people we despise. And I am, unless and until they try to get me to drink the Kool-aid. Or unless they're spreading their poison, which is harming the country I love.

 

I think that being "nice" has cost Democrats elections, most famously in 2016. When the other side is spewing hatred and insults, smiling blandly doesn't do it. A certain percentage of the electorate thinks that makes you look weak and the other guy look strong. If during their debate, Hillary had told Trump to "Get the f*** back to your own podium," she would have won in a landslide.

Even though I seldom agreed with Mark on the  issues, he always demonstrated an underlying reasonable core/ attitude in here. 

Sledhead and Nines I appreciate the compliments. 

 

I want to clarify you shouldn't be nice with the expectation that you will get something in return because that is not nice.  Now that I said that. 

 

 

 

Nowadays a lot of people are addicted to being angry.  Every day they run to the Internet or their social media feeds looking for something that will outrage them.  They need that sense of relief they experience when they feel that rage. 

 

That was me for years and I didn't even realize it.  Once your brain rewires itself, it expects to be fed that anger and rage all of the time. It becomes an addiction.  You become more desperate to find things that make you angry.  You make mountains out of molehills. You have to have the last word in every argument. 

 

Trust me it isn't any fun going through life angry all the time.  Get out meet people and be kind in the end you will be a much happier person.  

 

For some of you who have known me for years here, I guess this is my coming out party as a changed person. This is also my formal apology to AC and the community for all the trouble I caused everyone here over the years and for just generally being an all-around asshole. 

 

 

That doesn't mean I still don't enjoy a good debate but I don't let it get to me. I don't feel like I have the last word. If I notice myself starting to get angry I get off the Internet and do something else. 

 

 

 

This thread took an unexpected but nice turn. 

 

 

  

 

Edited on Sep 6, 2024 2:52pm

Mark, you used to be a David Miller?? Hard to believe.

Kevin, I was close to that and every bit as off-kilter.  And to be honest Kevin you are headed down the same road. It is not fun. It is not fun for me to watch.  Let David say what he wants to say and don't let it get to you.  Trust me I know it is hard sometimes when he tosses insults so easily. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited on Sep 6, 2024 3:01pm
Originally posted by: Mark

Kevin, I was close to that and every bit as off-kilter.  And to be honest Kevin you are headed down the same road. It is not fun. It is not fun for me to watch.  Let David say what he wants to say and don't let it get to you.  Trust me I know it is hard sometimes when he tosses insults so easily. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Naah. I'll never be like him, if for no other reason than I will never LUVVV a rapist, liar, thief, and traitor--and I will never support the violent overthrow of our government.

 

Also, I will never call people liars for expressing their opinions, however bizarre or warped they may be. "Alternative facts," though---now, those are lies, and I will say so.

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