Marky Mark, are you dodging the question?
Marky Mark, are you dodging the question?
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Barbie!
Now this one is clearly not racist. It's predjucied and bigotted and mean spirited.
Originally posted by: Charles
Now this one is clearly not racist. It's predjucied and bigotted and mean spirited.
And it's true.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
And it's true.
Really? Exactly what 'Truth" are you divining from "Sharia Barbie"? Or maybe you just think joking about a battered woman is funny.
Golly, I didn't realize I had been called out in this thread.
Boiler said, If I have a falling out over politics with my black African friend (Dom), my Canadian friend (Glen), and my Australian friend (Bill), and tell them all to go back to where they came from, I'm I racist? Am I racist all three times, or only when I tell Dom to move back to Tanzania?
I'm asking for our Liberals to explain why and when I'm being racist.
Context is what you fail to grasp. If you know your friends and know they won't see it as a racial slur then I don't think you making such a statement would make you a racist no matter which one (or all) you said it to assuming the statement was made in private between the four of you.
But your example isn't an apple to oranges comparison to what Trump did. Say those three weren't your friends but people at your place of employment and you didn't know them other than their names and generally what they did. If you would go up to all three as in your example and tell them to go back to where they came from any one of them or even other co-workers that heard the conversation could report you to human resources for practicing on the job racism. You would likely be fired.
Why? Because the EEOC cites the same phrase as a textbook example of racism in the workplace.
Trump's statement is even worse. Why?
Why did he choose to tell the four women of color to go home? He could have chosen a number of vulgar insults, but he specifically chose that one for them. Out of the thousands of insults he has issued since he started his political life, he never once told a white person to go back to where they came from. That is context.
He also added additional context in the tweets.


His assumption that they all come from a country other than the United States is racist. His belief that Puerto Rico isn't part of the U.S. is racist. (This isn't the first time Trump expressed this view on Puerto Rico.)
He wants them to go back to their home country when three of them were born here. Omar came to the U.S. when she was ten years old and was granted citizenship when she was 17. Trump is implying that Omar and these other women are less of a citizen than him which again provides us more context. Note the use of the word infested in the second tweet that I posted. It is important because it provides us some context as to why what he tweeted Saturday was also racist.

Trump in the past has used the words infested, vermin, shithole and breeding to describe black and brown people or places where they live. This type of dehumanizing language is in fact a longstanding racist/ethnic trope that dates back to Nazi Germany. The Nazis often used this type of language to whip up public support for their anti-Semitic policies. After five years of whipping up support using this type of dehumanizing language in their propaganda, they began sending Jews to the death camps.
Now that all plausible deniability has evaporated, anybody that continues to support a known racist like Trump is in fact a racist themselves.
Originally posted by: Charles
Really? Exactly what 'Truth" are you divining from "Sharia Barbie"? Or maybe you just think joking about a battered woman is funny.
I believe that beating woman is a terrible thing, and that Sharia law encourages this to happen. It happens regularly in the Minneapolis Muslim neighborhood known as little Mogadishu. I used to live 25 miles from this Muslim shit hole, and a cop friend of mine covered this area. The police did very limited patrols there, and pretty much only entered if they learned of a homicide. Virtually no crimes are reported to the outside World, and woman are beaten regularly.
Liberals support such violence with their unwillingness to acknowledge the truth.
Now Mark twists the truth, and the only time that there is racism is in the work place. My hypothetical example clearly states that if I had a falling out with my friend, and then told them to "Go Home". Once again, you dodge, because it would prove how hypocritical you are.
Secondly, if Trump was in the same workplace as the radical communists in question, then the most powerful man on Earth would have fired them long ago. Your example is, as expected, disingenuous.
Apparantly, the truth has been banned on this site.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Now Mark twists the truth, and the only time that there is racism is in the work place. My hypothetical example clearly states that if I had a falling out with my friend, and then told them to "Go Home". Once again, you dodge, because it would prove how hypocritical you are.
Secondly, if Trump was in the same workplace as the radical communists in question, then the most powerful man on Earth would have fired them long ago. Your example is, as expected, disingenuous.
I did not dodge. I answered your hypothetical. Here it is again since you missed it.
Context is what you fail to grasp. If you know your friends and know they won't see it as a racial slur then I don't think you making such a statement would make you a racist no matter which one (or all) you said it to assuming the statement was made in private between the four of you.
What you are upset about is that your hypothetical is nothing like the situation Trump was in when he said those slurs. He is President and the women he slurred are Congresswomen. He wasn't at a private gathering among friends. He is an unrepentant practitioner of racism. If you support the President, you accept his racism, making you a practitioner of racism just like him. I am sure it is a tough pill to swallow, but no amount of spinning his slurs to claim they mean something else changes that.
If you supported Obama, you accepted Obama's racism, you are a practitioner of racism, just like him.