I remember when Liberals told us that Trumps border policies wouldn't work

Zero illegal immigrants where released into the US by border control in May along our southern border.  Compare that with the 64,000 who were released in May 2024...only one year prior.  Nope, Trumps policies won't work.

They don't. Why do you think they are rounding up busboys, grocery clerks, fruit pickers and other laborers when they promised they were only going after criminals? On that point alone Trump's policy is a massive failure.

 

Obama deported more people than Trump has. And he did it without masked thugs kidnapping people, ignoring court orders, with due process, he didn't accidentally deport people to 3rd world hell holes that didn't commit crimes, he didn't have the military occupy cites and he didn't blow through the entire DHS budget for a deportation reality show.  So from a results perspective it has been an epic failure. 

Edited on Jun 21, 2025 7:17pm
Originally posted by: Boilerman

Zero illegal immigrants where released into the US by border control in May along our southern border.  Compare that with the 64,000 who were released in May 2024...only one year prior.  Nope, Trumps policies won't work.


"Work" doesn't mean "close the border." It doesn't mean "throw out everybody with brown skin." It means "be fair and equitable."

 

Trump's border policy is a massive failure.

According to govt stats there are 1.4m final deportation orders that need to be carried out, plus snither 600k criminals. 

 

If you have a final deportation order you can be deported even if you have a job and no due process is required. 

ICE agents wear masks to protect their identities and their families.  ICE assaults are up 432% this year. 

59% of ICE agents are Hispanic. 

liberals want the illegals to stay so they can become voters. 

Ariund 1m illegals have either been deported or left voluntarily in the last 6 months and the liberals economic collapse hasn't happened. 

Edited on Jun 21, 2025 11:22am

Originally posted by: tom

According to govt stats there are 1.4m final deportation orders that need to be carried out, plus snither 600k criminals. 

 

If you have a final deportation order you can be deported even if you have a job and no due process is required. 

ICE agents wear masks to protect their identities and their families.  ICE assaults are up 432% this year. 

liberals want the illegals to stay so they can become voters. 

Ariund 1m illegals have either been deported or left voluntarily in the last 6 months and the liberals economic collapse hasn't happened. 


ICE doesn't bother to identify the people they grab. Their only criterion is: brown skin.

 

That's illegal, to arrest, detain, and deport people without due process. Having brown skin doesn't mean you don't have civil rights.

 

Stupid Tom.

Not if they have a final deportation order Note the word FINAL - stupid levin

Edited on Jun 21, 2025 12:38pm
Originally posted by: tom

According to govt stats there are 1.4m final deportation orders that need to be carried out, plus snither 600k criminals. 

 

If you have a final deportation order you can be deported even if you have a job and no due process is required. 

ICE agents wear masks to protect their identities and their families.  ICE assaults are up 432% this year. 

59% of ICE agents are Hispanic. 

liberals want the illegals to stay so they can become voters. 

Ariund 1m illegals have either been deported or left voluntarily in the last 6 months and the liberals economic collapse hasn't happened. 


Why does a law enforcement officer performing his job in public need a mask?  They don't.  It is ridiculous reality TV theater for the Fox News crowd and it puts the ICE agents at greater risk while on the job.  Obama was able to deport more people than Trump without masks. 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

  Nope, Trumps policies won't work.


Nicely done! I've always said that immigration reform and control is all about policy, good to see that I was right about that as well.

 

Quick questions though, why did you guys spend $15 billion on a border wall if all you needed to do was to pass a good immigration policy? Which brings up another question: why didn't you pass a good immigration policy during Trump's first term, when you had the majority?  One last question, why do you want to spend $46 billion on more wall if the policy is so effective?

 

Trump Spent $15 Billion On Border Wall But Skimped On Vaccines

 

 

Congress Moves Forward with Billions in Funding for Border Wall Construction - Earthjustice

 

" — Today, in a party-line vote, the House Homeland Security Committee approved $46 billion in funding for the construction of new border wall and barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border. The funding will be part of the Republican budget reconciliation package. "

 

 

Heck, that's $61 billion is spending, for a fraction of that you could staff National Parks with ranger to help visitors enjoy our incredible country.

 

 

Its not "liberals" saying Trump's immigration policies arent working....its MAGA farmers and businessmen.

 

Trump voters getting their workforce deported or no-showing out of fear

 

Nevermind the employment crisis that causes .....its also an impact on our consumer based economy.

People like Boilerman think immigrants dont transact in the economy....like pay rent, buy groceries, get haircuts, fill up the gas tank......  People like Boilerman dont understand the economic impact when that spending goes away.

 

I cant help people like Boilerman.  I just votes for intelligent policy and hope enough other people do too.   Lets hope smarter heads prevail in 2026.

 

 

 

Edited on Jun 21, 2025 3:03pm
Originally posted by: tom

Not if they have a final deportation order Note the word FINAL - stupid levin


Even at that stage, stupid Tom, the law must be followed and proper procedures respected. And only those with such an order against them can be summarily scooped up and tossed out. But that's not what's happening. People who are here perfectly legally are being swept up in the ICE raids. And proper procedures, respecting the law and the rights of the accused, are not being followed or even acknowledged.

 

Stupid Tom reminds me of the Nazis who cheered and cheered as the Jews were brutalized, rounded up, and deported. It didn't matter to them that the Jews' rights were being violated--and it doesn't matter to Tom that immigrants' rights are being crushed now.

 

Stupid, evil little Tom.

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