I Wonder if Americans Have Had Their Eyes Opened by the Verdict Today?

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I know you guys hate Trump and wanted to see him convicted but I'm confused......wouldn't it be better for your side for him to continue to be the republican candidate and Old Joe wins easy?  If some other candidate takes Trump's spot, they'd probably have a hell of a chance against Joe.  


No.    First of all its not going to happen.   Trump is the Republican nominee.  Full stop.  Thats not going to change.   

 

I'd be much happier if the Republican nominee was Nicki Haley.   I wouldnt vote for her.   But you're right - she would be heavily favored to beat Biden according to polls.    America would survive Nicki Haley.    I'm not so sure it will survive another 4 years of the autocrat wannabe.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I know you guys hate Trump and wanted to see him convicted but I'm confused......wouldn't it be better for your side for him to continue to be the republican candidate and Old Joe wins easy?  If some other candidate takes Trump's spot, they'd probably have a hell of a chance against Joe.  


It would be, but I care about my country more.

Originally posted by: Mark

It would be, but I care about my country more.


Fair enough.  

 

Trump has no chance and I mean, no chance.  

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I know you guys hate Trump and wanted to see him convicted but I'm confused......wouldn't it be better for your side for him to continue to be the republican candidate and Old Joe wins easy?  If some other candidate takes Trump's spot, they'd probably have a hell of a chance against Joe.  


1) The chance of any other Republishit candidate getting the nomination is essentially zero as long as Trump is breathing. So since the consequences of the Turd's actions won't hit him until after the election--if indeed, they ever do--what happens with this and other trials won't matter much as far as the upcoming election is concerned.

2) Similarly, Trump could be convicted of mass murder, multiple gang rape, treason, massive fraud, and shitting himself in public and it wouldn't affect his drooling MAGA moron base one bit. Hell, look at how stupid Tom and Millerscum have rushed to his defense. The MAGA scum really, truly believe that not only is their orange god innocent of any crime, he can't commit any crimes in the future, either.

3) I think the best outcome would be that Trump remains free at least through the Republishit convention, and he picks another fawning lackey even more servile than Pence (after all, Pence defied Trump's last order), and that person is so disgustng that the very real prospect of that person becoming President will turn off a significant number of undecided voters.

4) A last-minute replacement for Trump wouldn't necessarily be an improvement for the RepubliQ. I mean, imagine the convention three weeks after it's announced that Trump won't be running after all. The backstabbing! The intrigue! The name-calling! And here's the kicker--whoever got the nomination wouldn't have the support of more than a fraction of the RepubliQ.

 

So while Biden's chances have improved a bit, I don't think they're that much better.


Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Fair enough.  

 

Trump has no chance and I mean, no chance.  


You are much more confident than I am. The collective intellect of Americans has rapidly declined in the age of social media. The more outlandish and bizarre you behave the more popular you are.

Originally posted by: Mark

You are much more confident than I am. The collective intellect of Americans has rapidly declined in the age of social media. The more outlandish and bizarre you behave the more popular you are.


Maybe I am being naive but if this country elects this turd twice......we are in worse shape than I ever imagined.  

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Maybe I am being naive but if this country elects this turd twice......we are in worse shape than I ever imagined.  


That the 2016 election was even remotely close was the primary symptom of doom as far as I'm concerned. It made my skin crawl to think that wherever I went, one out of every three adults actually thought that that godawful piece of slime was...you get my drift. 

 

So I don't think the coming election will signify much either way. The rot is already there and if the ship doesn't fall apart just yet, it will soon. We can't survive with 50 million evil Trumper idiots pretending to be Americans.

 

I mean, shouldn't Biden--or practically anyone else on the planet--be leading Trump 98-2 in the polls...if we were a rational, decent people?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That the 2016 election was even remotely close was the primary symptom of doom as far as I'm concerned. It made my skin crawl to think that wherever I went, one out of every three adults actually thought that that godawful piece of slime was...you get my drift. 

 

So I don't think the coming election will signify much either way. The rot is already there and if the ship doesn't fall apart just yet, it will soon. We can't survive with 50 million evil Trumper idiots pretending to be Americans.

 

I mean, shouldn't Biden--or practically anyone else on the planet--be leading Trump 98-2 in the polls...if we were a rational, decent people?


You would think so, right?  And you all know I'm not a big fan of Biden either but even I would tend to believe he would be like 80-20 minimum.  

Kevin said, "The rot is already there and if the ship doesn't fall apart just yet, it will soon."

 

 

I agree with Kevin on this the cake is already baked.  It is just a matter of when.

 

 

And it is the Republicans ushering it in.   All these folks, including a lot of Democrats, are of the mindset that once Trump goes away, the Republican party will go back to normal and nominate someone like Nikki Haley or Mitt Romney the next time around.

 

It will never happen.  The Republican base is hooked on conspiracy theories that are fed to them by the Conservative media and then hammered home on social media. You are not welcome in the party if you don't buy into their conspiracy theories.   Republicans have already destroyed America's faith in the election process which in the past was held up as an example to the rest of the world of how fair elections should conducted.  And we all know how Republicans determine if an election is rigged.  Any election where the Republican candidate is defeated is rigged. 

 

Now Republicans and the Republican party are undermining the legal system and Federal Law enforcement. According to them, the FBI is part of a vast left-wing conspiracy to get Trump.  The FBI has long been considered the most conservative agency in the  United States government.   There has never been a Democratic FBI director.  They have all been Republicans.  But because the FBI had evidence of Trump committing crimes they are somehow corrupt and now simply an extension of the Democratic party. 

 

The base wants people so far to the right that they are mentally unhinged. The Republicans over the last few decades have managed to stack the deck via gerrymandering in the House and the State Houses. In many of those districts, because of how they are drawn, you have to be as far-right as MTG to win a Republican primary.  


Any compromise with the Democratic party even on the most mundane issues is seen as a betrayal and invites a primary challenge. That is why Republicans can't govern.  They are all locked in a battle to be the most favored by the base so they constantly do things, like removing their speaker, to get attention. If you want to break into conservative politics or conservative media you have to be more extreme than your competition. 

 

Conservative Billionaires are buying up the media to turn them into propaganda outlets. Democrats are so dumb it drives me crazy.  How so many of them think requiring TikTok to sell to Steve Mnuchin is a good thing leaves me speechless at their stupidity.

 

Conservatives want to turn this country into Hungary.  They want a one-party state with a captive conservative media. And the truth is they just come out and say this stuff but nobody listens neither Democrats nor Republicans.  

 

I give JD Vance an 85% chance of being named as Trump's running mate.  He is a fascist autocrat like Trump but where he differs is he isn't mentally ill, he is intelligent and polished.  He will be able to get Trump-like things done that Trump can't because of his mental infirmities.  I wouldn't be surprised if they replaced Trump at the convention with the deal being Vance would pardon Trump. This would be a much worse outcome than Trump.  Vance would win in a landslide because he is simply a new face. 

 

Anyway boys unless you like fascism and living in a theocratic state, I suggest you make your exit plans. Thailand recently made some changes to its Visa programs that make it attractive to work a remote job from there. I plan to be out of here in two to three years no matter who wins the election. 

 

 

Edited on Jun 3, 2024 3:26pm
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