ICE Thug Murders Person In Minnesota

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

There are two reasons why what you call uninformed opinions have been offered:

 

1. People realize that almost no matter what the precise circumstances were, the ICE thug acted irresponsibly and unnecessarily violently.

 

2. MAGA media, such as Fox Nooze, felt compelled to immediately and stridently belch out apologia in their role as Loyal Servants of Dear Leader Trump.

 

I'd like you to scrutinize one word you used: "hysteria." That word was used many times by the "establishment" to describe (and defame) Vietnam War protestors. It was also used to MAGA to describe the George Floyd protests (which were overwhelmingly peaceful and anything BUT "hysterical").

 

So do you really think that the protests against this horrible incident are "hysteria"? I for one call it "outrage," and yes, Fox Nooze has joined with you in calling it "hysteria." You're a former medical professional. The term implies runaway emotions and a loss of control and rationality. Do you really think that's what's going on?


No, that is not what I mean.  Trump's going after immigration, is ginning up a state of national 'hysteria', for one thing.    

 

Do ICE agents exercise any restraint?  Any compassion?   It sounds as if their procedure involves rapid approach, shock and awe, no discussion with the one(s) arrested, let somebody else ask questions later.  It sounds like the 'later' is often much later, leaving time for fast separations and jailings and deportations before any legal approvals the arrested person may be in the US under can be reviewed.

 

I don't know anything about ICE training and the actions they are expected to carry out.  Probably many other everyday citizens like myself do not know much about it either. 

 

And I don't watch Fox News.

 

Candy 

 

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

No, that is not what I mean.  Trump's going after immigration, is ginning up a state of national 'hysteria', for one thing.    

 

Do ICE agents exercise any restraint?  Any compassion?   It sounds as if their procedure involves rapid approach, shock and awe, no discussion with the one(s) arrested, let somebody else ask questions later.  It sounds like the 'later' is often much later, leaving time for fast separations and jailings and deportations before any legal approvals the arrested person may be in the US under can be reviewed.

 

I don't know anything about ICE training and the actions they are expected to carry out.  Probably many other everyday citizens like myself do not know much about it either. 

 

And I don't watch Fox News.

 

Candy 

 


I agree with you, in that their methods seem to be calculated to deprive the detainees of any legal recourse. They all but truss them up and shove them out the door of an airplane over the Gulf of Mexico. (I'm not all that sure that hasn't been done.)

 

As far as training is concerned, ICE was never in the role it is now before Trump came along. Indiscriminately hunting down  brown people wasn't what their agency was tasked with doing. So they have very few people with any experience or training in the grab 'em and drag 'em away area.

 

And as the recent sad incidents prove, their agents have ZERO training in how to behave as police officers.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

No, that is not what I mean.  Trump's going after immigration, is ginning up a state of national 'hysteria', for one thing.    

 

Do ICE agents exercise any restraint?  Any compassion?   It sounds as if their procedure involves rapid approach, shock and awe, no discussion with the one(s) arrested, let somebody else ask questions later.  It sounds like the 'later' is often much later, leaving time for fast separations and jailings and deportations before any legal approvals the arrested person may be in the US under can be reviewed.

 

I don't know anything about ICE training and the actions they are expected to carry out.  Probably many other everyday citizens like myself do not know much about it either. 

 

And I don't watch Fox News.

 

Candy 

 


  Too bad you have chosen not to watch Fox News. All they do is report what everyone can see for themselves. CNN , MSNBC and ABC have been proven to lie, distort and to take out of context the actual facts when reporting. It is apparent that some people have no concept of reality and the truth - and the majority of these people reside in Blue states and cities - and they continue to vote Democrat as their cities and states continue to have more crime, higher taxes and moral decay.

Stop fleeing police and you'll be fine.


Originally posted by: Boilerman

Stop fleeing police and you'll be fine.


Disobey police orders and you'll be executed on the spot.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Stop fleeing police and you'll be fine.


And if they do, it's OK to kill them. Why hold law enforcement to a high standard?

 

Many MAGA folks find the 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments inconvenient. They only know the 1st Amendment, although it only applies to things they agree with, and the 2nd Amendment. The other 25 are just filler, apparently.

This might be a good poll.  When is it okay to flee law enforcement.  And is it ever okay for law enforcement to use force to make you comply.

Robbing a bank ?

Car accident ?

Stealing  an old lady's purse ?

Stabbing someone with a knife?

Kidnapping ?

Rape ?

Home break in ?

Murder ?

Assault ?

When should it just be okay for you to spit on law enforcement and just walk away

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

This might be a good poll.  When is it okay to flee law enforcement.  And is it ever okay for law enforcement to use force to make you comply.

Robbing a bank ?

Car accident ?

Stealing  an old lady's purse ?

Stabbing someone with a knife?

Kidnapping ?

Rape ?

Home break in ?

Murder ?

Assault ?

When should it just be okay for you to spit on law enforcement and just walk away


That's not the question here. Resisting arrest is and should be unlawful. But it shouldn't be punished by summary execution.

 

The grrmane question is, when should law enforcement use deadly force on someone resisting arrest? I would maintain that that should only be if a fleeing suspect poses a danger to others. 

 

Real police, as opposed to ICE thugs, won't engage in violent confrontations, high speed chases, on gun battles. It's easy enough to record someone's license plate, take a photo of them, then apprehend them later.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

So her sexual orientation justified her killing.

 

Her not being at work justified her killing.

 

Her being a liberal (as you suppose) justified her killing.

 

"Being a nuisance" justified her killing.

 

I guess that ties in nicely with the MAGA/Trump narrative that objecting to the Turd's policies justified her killing.

 

Do you ever listen to yourself?


No, didn't say justified.  What I'm saying is she was a complete loser.  

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Murderer? Killer? Undisciplined, unprofessional, easily angered pseudo-cop with a gun?

 

A thug is someone who resorts to violence as his primary way to deal with problems. The term also refers to a person in the employ of others who expect him to be violent to achieve their ends.

 

Sorry, but "thug" it is and "thug":it shall remain.


The woman seems and looks like a thug as well.

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