ICE Thug Murders Person In Minnesota

Originally posted by: Mark

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Just got back from Vegas. Been talking to baby and she said this happened a block over from where she lives. School has already been canceled for a week and everything is about to explode.  

 

 

Hopefully, everyone of those lawless thugs get life in prison. They even threatened to shoot the doctor that was trying to treat her. Prosecute them to the fullest extent the Minnesota law allows and Trump won't be able to do jack shit about it.  Trump is the most disgusting person that has ever held the office of President.  The audicity to balme the victim after his lawless thugs shoot her smh.

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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Here is the worst part -- " she loses her life because she was encouraged by local government officials to resist and fight back against ICE, but the people that encouraged and manipulated her into believing she had to fight to begin with get to continue without consequence. She died for absolutely no benefit to her beliefs or cause. Just a pawn to those whose political careers are all that matter."

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Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

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I think the agent positioning himself in front of the vehicle like that was tactically foolish.

 

At the time he first pointed his pistol I did not see a lethal threat. 

 

This is a tough situation. She does appear to strike the agent. However I would say that by the time the weapon was fired she was no longer an active threat and she was fleeing.

 

It did not look to me like she was attempting to hit the agent. It looks to me like she was terrified and fleeing.  It looks to me like he fired out of anger  not self-defense. But I wasn't there and I wasn't in his mind so I can't say. 

 

What was the reason for them trying to detain her in the first place? Did they have Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that she was guilty of a crime? Did they have a warrant for her arrest? 

 

If this was an unlawful detention then the agents lose the right to claim self-defense. If this was an unlawful detention then I would say she would have the right to use force to avoid the detention. Exercising that right however could be a tactical mistake. 

 

 

Edit: remove statement that in hindsight was unnecessary. 

 

Edit: I have to look more into this and find more information. But those are my initial thoughts after viewing the first video. After finding more information my opinion may change. 

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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 Not to debate with what you say here, -"unwarrented lethal force" - what would you have done if you were the officer who suddenly was being run over? Is there any source that is available that affirms that MAGA supports killing people in the streets? I would appreciate being able to see/read such information. 

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Originally posted by: Brent Kline

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I wonder if this lady from missouri was being paid to go to minnisota to protest. It will be interesting to see if this turns into George Floyd  part 2 not knowing what her race is or if it will matter.

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Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

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If she was blocking traffic that probably is a job for local law enforcement not federal. ICE is not traffic enforcement. She probably shouldn't have done what she did but they could have done differently too. Like turn around and go around the block or called local PD.  

 

If her only crime was blocking the road, why not just let her leave? Why force her out of the car? 

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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  She was delibertly blocking the road and the ICE agents approached her car and told her to get out of her vehicle - probably to arrest her for interferring - and she decided to try to drive off, hitting the officer that shot her. She alone placed herself in this situation and then sat there until the officers approached and told her to get out of her car. What ensued would have never happened if she had not been there and/or had of exited her vehicle when told to do so. I am not condoning what happened - I am just stating what the circumstances were, as seen in the video(s).

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