It sounds like team Trump has scored a win. They very smartly used a Trojan Horse tactic to use Manafort to gain inside info on Mueller's investigation. Manafort led Mueller to believe he was cooperating in exchange for leniency in his sentencing. Manafort is expecting a pardon from the President. If this happens, what are the repercussions and will New York state bring up charges?
I would argue its as much of a win for Trump as it was for Nixon when he considered it.
It largely amounts to witness tampering and obstruction of justice....one of the things Manafort was indicted for. Manfort was likely going to prison for the rest of his life regardless of the cooperation he promised Mueller...he is throwing a hail Mary in hopes Trump will pardon him. What do you think the odds are Donny will put his own skin on the line to save someone else? I guess it depends how desperate Trump becomes in the wake of the reports revelation.
Pretty interesting though how Trump's lawyers had so much to talk about with a guy Trump hardly knew, right?
I think Republicans better start looking for a plan "B" in 2020. The odds of Trump making it to the next campaign seem to be dwindling by the hour.
cjen, I don't think it will work out. If Trump and his lawyers knew about this scheme to have Manafort serve as a double agent, they could all be charged with obstruction of justice and possibly witness tampering. All reporting seems to indicate that they did. I am not so sure Manafort and Trump got one over on Mueller because at some point Mueller knew Manafort was not telling the truth. Mueller could have easily fed Manafort false information. Based on that false information Manafort could have said to Trump something like Mueller doesn't know about our agreement with Assange and the Russians. Trump could have taken this information and perjured himself on those written answers he provided to Mueller thinking he was in the clear.
Think about the timing of how this played out. Mueller didn't announce that Manafort broke his plea until after Trump turned in those written answers. Trump said he completed the questions and they would be turned over tomorrow or the next day on the 20th. On the 26th Mueller filed a status report with the court announcing that Manafort broke his plea. That was the first business day the court was open after Trump turned in his answers.
Furthermore, if it were a win for Trump, he wouldn't have gone into full meltdown mode on the day the story broke lashing out at the investigation. He is acting like someone that knows his scheme is unraveling rather than someone that is putting points on the board.
It is beginning to look a lot like Trump, Manafort, Assange and maybe a few others committed some type of treasonous act and that Mueller has evidence of it. I suspect he has tapes/transcripts of the meetings between Manafort and Assange that were provided by Ecuador.
Very informative replies. I'm starting to sense that politics is a dirty business.
LOL, "Mark suspects....". After 2 years there is no evidence of anything.
Maybe Mark is 'suspecting' more indictments......that aren't coming.
Can't wait to see how Mark continues his bullshit for 6 more years.
I guess Fritz posted this before Mueller dropped the Cohen bomb this morning. Again, it is all about the timing. First Mueller revokes Manafort's plea right after Trump submits his written answers. Now he follows that up by having Cohen pled guilty to lying about the Trump Tower project. You can take it to the bank that Mueller asked Trump about the Moscow Trump Tower deal in those questions. Cohen has been under Federal control for months now. Mueller could have brought this charge at any time. Instead, he waited until Trump committed himself to a certain set of facts.
Both of these moves were designed to let Trump know that hey we have got you now. There is no getting out of this.
Ha,Ha, Ha!
2 years no evidence of anything....ya know, except about 30 indictmenrs and/or convictions .
Nobody knows the final findings of the Mueller Report because it has not been made pubic yet. What a concept ! All we know are all the little fish that have been caught and busted so far....and many of them have agreed to give information on bigger fish in exchange for deals. Gee, I wonder who those bigger fish might be?
Far be it from me to speculate....but I would think the Bengazhi crybabies can use their imagination.
"Bengazhi crybabies"?- PJ, you are a despicable anal orafice. American soldiers lost their lives while the Obeyme administration sat on their collective thumbs when they denied requests for additional security at the diplomatic compound.
