Inevitable: ICE goons shoot two people in Portland

  Please show any postings you say I have made where I was screaming at people. Apparently anyone, including myself, who does not agree with your viewpoints is considered a "propagandist" - defined here (from Google)  -- A propagandist is someone who creates or spreads messages (ideas, facts, or allegations) deliberately to influence public opinion, further a specific cause, damage an opposing one, or support a government, often using biased or misleading information for predetermined ends  -- Please stop with the personal attacks leveled at me.

Edited on Jan 9, 2026 8:54am
Originally posted by: David Miller

  Please show any postings you say I have made where I was screaming at people. Apparently anyone, including myself, who does not agree with your viewpoints is considered a "propagandist" - defined here (from Google)  -- A propagandist is someone who creates or spreads messages (ideas, facts, or allegations) deliberately to influence public opinion, further a specific cause, damage an opposing one, or support a government, often using biased or misleading information for predetermined ends  -- Please stop with the personal attacks leveled at me.


If you stop responding to others' posts by insulting them and calling them liars, sure. You reverted to your old self a couple of times in the last couple of days, indicating that you are struggling to control Nasty David.

 

You have been a propagandist, albeit a pretty weak and ineffective one, ever since you came to this forum. The sole criterion for a post you make is whether or not it supports Trump. And to use a phrase from your definition, you use biased or misleading information almost all the time.

 

I consider your reflexive support for every single thing Trump does both ridiculous and disgusting. I also think it's a facade. No sane or reasonable person could be such a loyal servant to such a horrible man. I believe you put on the Nasty David hat to start arguments and amuse yourself.

 

I, like others here, have been genuinely pleased with your recent relative civility. I'll withhold final judgment until the time Anthony's sanctions are lifted and you have free rein to return to your old self. If you do that, we'll know that your present good behavior was all an act. If you maintain your present relatively peaceful demeanor, I think I can speak for all of us when I say we'll be very happy and will look forward to having productive discussions with you.

 

The choice is yours 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

If you stop responding to others' posts by insulting them and calling them liars, sure. You reverted to your old self a couple of times in the last couple of days, indicating that you are struggling to control Nasty David.

 

You have been a propagandist, albeit a pretty weak and ineffective one, ever since you came to this forum. The sole criterion for a post you make is whether or not it supports Trump. And to use a phrase from your definition, you use biased or misleading information almost all the time.

 

I consider your reflexive support for every single thing Trump does both ridiculous and disgusting. I also think it's a facade. No sane or reasonable person could be such a loyal servant to such a horrible man. I believe you put on the Nasty David hat to start arguments and amuse yourself.

 

I, like others here, have been genuinely pleased with your recent relative civility. I'll withhold final judgment until the time Anthony's sanctions are lifted and you have free rein to return to your old self. If you do that, we'll know that your present good behavior was all an act. If you maintain your present relatively peaceful demeanor, I think I can speak for all of us when I say we'll be very happy and will look forward to having productive discussions with you.

 

The choice is yours 


 (1) It is not an insult to label one a liar when they are obviously proven to be one. (2) My sole criterion has been to post honest, factual, truthful information. Much of the info I have posted the past 9 years has been proven as being correct when it has concerned President Trump. (3) What you "consider" concerning my factual postings about President Trump may be "rediculous and disgusting" in your opinion - does not change my right to voice my opinions.(4) I need not to elaborate the multitude number of times you and others have posted negative material concerning President Trump - much which has been disproven and there was nary a word/admission from you and others when you and others were proven as being wrong. That scenario exists even to today.(5) I don't post information to "amuse myself" - I post information to allow others to determine for themselves the veracity of whatever topic is being discussed.(6) My present "good behavior" is really no different than before. The apparent reason for my current posting guidelines is because a number others did not like the quantity of the numerous new postings I made. 

Originally posted by: SPretire22

If you're stupid enough to use your car to elude law enforcement you're likely going to hit one of the 5 or 6 officers around the car. You deserve to get shot.

Round them up, lock up the violent ones, and deport the rest. 


Who is "them"? The deceased woman was a US citizen. Are you advocating all citizens be "rounded up" confinement or deportation? Or just the ones with whom you have political disagreement? 

 

She very well may have committed a crime. But I really don't want the government to be able to deport US citizens for committing a crime. You said the violent ones should go to prison, fair enough. That leaves the non-violent ones for deportation. Do you have a list of non-violent offenses for which citizens deserve deportation? 

 

I fully agree with you that it is generally unwise to flee law enforcement. Put a policy of deporting us citizens? That's a pretty frightening power I don't want the government to have. I generally preach that government should be small and limited in its power. This would be the antithesis of that.

 

 


Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Who is "them"? The deceased woman was a US citizen. Are you advocating all citizens be "rounded up" confinement or deportation? Or just the ones with whom you have political disagreement? 

 

She very well may have committed a crime. But I really don't want the government to be able to deport US citizens for committing a crime. You said the violent ones should go to prison, fair enough. That leaves the non-violent ones for deportation. Do you have a list of non-violent offenses for which citizens deserve deportation? 

 

I fully agree with you that it is generally unwise to flee law enforcement. Put a policy of deporting us citizens? That's a pretty frightening power I don't want the government to have. I generally preach that government should be small and limited in its power. This would be the antithesis of that.

 

 


  I agree with LiveFreeNW. Deporting citizens is not a viable solution - enforcing the law is.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

"Nice Miller" didn't last long! The nasty little MAGA propagandist is back.

 

Just as well. If David wasn't screaming at people and calling them LIAR LIAR LIARS, a rift in the space-time fabric of the universe might develop.


I would respectfully suggest that in some ways he has restrained himself more than you have. 

 

Has he posted things with which I disagree? Yes. Does it appear that sometimes he doesn't understand the difference between fact and opinion? Yes. Does he sometimes label opinion as fact? Yes. 

 

However I would suggest that if someone were new to the forum and only saw the last couple of days they would say that you have been quicker to go to snide remarks or ad-hominem attacks than he has. 

 

I don't think it is your intent but one could mistakenly believe that you are trying to bait him. The constant reference of his " old ways" and predictions of him "reverting back". I find to be unnecessary and unproductive. I think the more effective approach would be to let the past go and move on. 

 

Please don't take this as any sort of attack. I have a lot of respect for you. It is with that respect in mind that I felt compelled to share this observation. 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I would respectfully suggest that in some ways he has restrained himself more than you have. 

 

Has he posted things with which I disagree? Yes. Does it appear that sometimes he doesn't understand the difference between fact and opinion? Yes. Does he sometimes label opinion as fact? Yes. 

 

However I would suggest that if someone were new to the forum and only saw the last couple of days they would say that you have been quicker to go to snide remarks or ad-hominem attacks than he has. 

 

I don't think it is your intent but one could mistakenly believe that you are trying to bait him. The constant reference of his " old ways" and predictions of him "reverting back". I find to be unnecessary and unproductive. I think the more effective approach would be to let the past go and move on. 

 

Please don't take this as any sort of attack. I have a lot of respect for you. It is with that respect in mind that I felt compelled to share this observation. 

 


Well, I found out what I wanted to know, which is that his transformation into civility and decency was just a temporary facade.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Who is "them"? The deceased woman was a US citizen. Are you advocating all citizens be "rounded up" confinement or deportation? Or just the ones with whom you have political disagreement? 

 

She very well may have committed a crime. But I really don't want the government to be able to deport US citizens for committing a crime. You said the violent ones should go to prison, fair enough. That leaves the non-violent ones for deportation. Do you have a list of non-violent offenses for which citizens deserve deportation? 

 

I fully agree with you that it is generally unwise to flee law enforcement. Put a policy of deporting us citizens? That's a pretty frightening power I don't want the government to have. I generally preach that government should be small and limited in its power. This would be the antithesis of that.

 

 


But MAGA is telling us that fleeing ICE is a capital offense that brings summary execution. That sounds a little rank, so they hasten to add that the person executed was trying to run the noble warriors of Dear Leader Trump over.

 Where did you find this that you post here?-- But MAGA is telling us that fleeing ICE is a capital offense that brings summary execution." -- Please post your source. 

Edited on Jan 9, 2026 6:15pm
Originally posted by: David Miller

 Where did you find this that you post here?-- But MAGA is telling us that fleeing ICE is a capital offense that brings summary execution." -- Please post your source. 


No one has explicitly said that, obviously. But MAGA has expressed satisfaction with what happened--calling the victim a terrorist and concocting the false narrative that she was trying to to run over the murderer. You've been trying that, too 

 

That said, the shootings in Minneapolis and Portland, AND THE FACT THAT THE KILLERS ARE STILL FREE, indicate beyond the shadow of a doubt that ICE/Border Patrol thugs now have carte blanche to gun people down.

 

I can't begin to understand what darkness is in your mind that makes you support all that.

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