Tom, it is because they are “losing”! So in fitting form, they will resort to anything! The Texas detention center was built in 2014 under the Obama administration. The treatment of illegals separation is not a first time happening under Trump.
Tom, it is because they are “losing”! So in fitting form, they will resort to anything! The Texas detention center was built in 2014 under the Obama administration. The treatment of illegals separation is not a first time happening under Trump.
Conservatives are running scared because they are afraid they won’t be able to get a dinner reservation anymore.
Oh, and this story isn’t going away. When Trump instituted his zero-tolerance policy there was no pre-planning hence the Trumpkins have no idea which kids belong to which parents.
They had brown skin too.
And all this happened in the Obama era as well but no bleeding heart liberals then gave a 2 shits!
Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
And all this happened in the Obama era as well but no bleeding heart liberals then gave a 2 shits!
Nope, Obama didn't have a zero-tolerance policy. First-time offenders that entered with their kids weren't charged. I'd like to point out the illegal entry law can even be fully enforced in an entirely different way than Trump has. They don't even have to be charged with a misdemeanor. They can simply be given a civil penalty (a fine) and sent on their way like a speeding ticket. The law was written this way intentionally. It was supposed to be discretionary like the shoplifting example I provided in another post above. The shoplifter can be charged with a misdemeanor or a felony. Illegal entry is a less serious crime, so the illegal entrant can be charged with a simple civil offense (think infraction) and sent on their way. They don't have to be charged with a misdemeanor for the law to be fully enforced as it is written.
Furthermore, it simply doesn't make any sense morally or financially to take someone charged with a misdemeanor and hold them for longer than they would be sentenced for even if found guilty. Then take their kids to the other side of the country and keep them in detention too. The whole scheme is nothing more than a racist ploy to punish the minorities that Trump doesn't like. Yeah, just like the Nazis and it is not hyperbole to say so. How much is Trump spending to incarnate all these folks and their children on misdemeanor charges?
"I am thinking of joining the Democratic Socialists." As I wrote, you'd fit right in, Mark. "No borders! No walls! Sanctuary for all!" is what they were shouting at DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen at the restaurant.
A nation? What is that? Sovereignty? What is that? Laws? What are those?
There are millions of people living in the Socialist Utopia of Venezuela that are waiting to see if they can find a way to the USA (probably through Mexico, because Mexico would let it happen) because asylum for any reason is good enough to be given a pass into this country. Even the coyotes in Mexico tell their human cargo being smuggled in to claim asylum if they are caught crossing the border ILLEGALLY.
Originally posted by: Mark
Conservatives are running scared because they are afraid they won’t be able to get a dinner reservation anymore.
Oh, and this story isn’t going away. When Trump instituted his zero-tolerance policy there was no pre-planning hence the Trumpkins have no idea which kids belong to which parents.
They had brown skin too.
You should change your screen name to Maxine.
You are advocating for open and blatant discrimination by leftists based on perceived thoughts and/or ideology. Most of the support I've seen for the red hen discrimination mentions the gay wedding cake case, claiming that the baker refused to serve gay people. He didn't. He refused to decorate it with a gay marriage message. Those asshats went out of their way to find a Christian bakery in a large city and try to destroy him and his business because of THEIR religious bigotry. Religious bigotry is often used by the left to try to attack people, as does your image above.
"The Trumpkins?" If they had "no idea which kids belong to which parents", over 500 would not have already been reunited with their criminal parents in the last few days.
Open and blatant racist discrimination is nothing new for Democrats...the KKK and opposition to civil rights legislation are just a few historical examples. These days, conservative black people are slammed and attacked for their ideology on a daily basis. They shouldn't think that way, and if they do, they aren't really black. White liberals are the real, worst racists in America today.
Originally posted by: Mark
Nope, Obama didn't have a zero-tolerance policy. First-time offenders that entered with their kids weren't charged. I'd like to point out the illegal entry law can even be fully enforced in an entirely different way than Trump has. They don't even have to be charged with a misdemeanor. They can simply be given a civil penalty (a fine) and sent on their way like a speeding ticket. The law was written this way intentionally. It was supposed to be discretionary like the shoplifting example I provided in another post above. The shoplifter can be charged with a misdemeanor or a felony. Illegal entry is a less serious crime, so the illegal entrant can be charged with a simple civil offense (think infraction) and sent on their way. They don't have to be charged with a misdemeanor for the law to be fully enforced as it is written.
Furthermore, it simply doesn't make any sense morally or financially to take someone charged with a misdemeanor and hold them for longer than they would be sentenced for even if found guilty. Then take their kids to the other side of the country and keep them in detention too. The whole scheme is nothing more than a racist ploy to punish the minorities that Trump doesn't like. Yeah, just like the Nazis and it is not hyperbole to say so. How much is Trump spending to incarnate all these folks and their children on misdemeanor charges?
A shoplifter can be charged with or ticketed for a misdemeanor, and released TO GO HOME. HOME IS NOT in America for anyone crossing the border illegally! I'm starting to think that nobody on the left understands what the word "laws" mean, other than to ignore laws and name call anyone who disagrees with them.
"Conservatives are running scared because they are afraid they won’t be able to get a dinner reservation anymore."
So Mark & other liberals believe that any type of thuggish behavior is acceptable as long as it is directed at Republicans & Conservtives.
When one has to resort to intimidation tactics, that means they have lost the debate.
Originally posted by: tom
Actually both sites contradict themselves
Snopes -
"On 7 May 2018, CNN reported that until April 2018, immigration officials used discretion to handle families or unaccompanied minors entering the United States without documentation:" So it was being done
Politifact
"(A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)" If nobody was keeping count, how can one tell how many families were broken up.
Another note - it appears the PJ & Mark as well as other liberals, don't care how many false photos or stories are put up, as long as it is negative to President Trump.
How come the liberals don't seem to care about how many people have been murdered or victims of other violent crimes by illegals?
You saw it here, folks! Tom has more insight into the issue than the non-partisan, fact checkers.
Obama and Clinton's policy was to seperate families only in cases of people with criminal records trying to re-enter the country. And nobody has a problem with that....for the same reason nobody has a problem when legal citizens of the US are arrested and seperated from their families.
Trump's policy is to seperate everyone . thats why his tent cities are overrun with migrants and his predecessors' were not.
And Thats why the Pulitzer prize winning fact checkers say you and Bob and Woodpecker are completely full of shit when you try to make a false equivalency.
have a great day.
And meanwhile the consequences of Klan-based immigration policy yield bigger consequences than the moral ones. Turns out US citizens aren't taking all those jobs that the alt-right-bigots always complain about being stolen by immigrants.
Avocado farmers crops rot in the fields in california
Farmers in Ohio cant find people to harvest crops
Farm crisis in Washington because there are no workers
