Inside Trump’s Gulags For Children

DonDiego points to the broad category of "unlawful" - which embodies both felonies and misdemeanors.   Our general criminal justice system gives discretion to our govenment as to how they can punish people amonst these two categories.    Before Trump that discretion was considered.   And now it isn't.   Its that simple.

Im not suggesting what Trump is doing is illegal.  Nobody is.   Its simply inhumane by any empircal definiton of that word.    And it is not required.   And it is not a continuing policy from previous administrations.   People who suggest otherwise are being fundamentally dishonest, aren't they?

There are consequences if one breaks the law.

There are laws against non-citizens entering the United States.

If one violates the law by entering the Unoited States illegally, one should expect to face unpleasant consequences, . . . most likely arrest and incarceration.

If an adult is incarcerated for breaking a law, he should expect to be separated from his children.   (This is no different from any other incarceration for breaking other laws; children of bank robbers do not accompany their parents into jail.)

DonDiego advocates that if a law is on-the-books it should be enforced;  if it not going to be enforced it should be taken off the books.

Others advocate that some laws should not be enforced; this path leads to social disorder.  How does one know which laws can be violated and which laws cannnot, . . . or if/when the decision to enforce/not enforce may be changed?

President Obama chose not to enforce the law by not arresting those crossing the border illegally, and thus avoided the "difficulty" of separating parents from their children.

Thus, the number of "illegals" has risen significantly.

President Trump has chosen to enforce the law.  

Congress can change the law if Congress chooses to do so.

DonDiego suggests the interested reader, if any, consider the question as to why certain elected officials do not want the Government to enforce laws against illegal entry into the United States.

Indeed - there are punishments for breaking the law....and "one should expect to suffer consequences" for doing so.   That was true before Trump's border fiasco and after.  However , the nature of those consequences is open to discretion - and it does not require babies to be physically removed from their mothers.  Period.   And that is also why Don Diego does not necessarily go to jail when getting a speeding ticket.   its not a difficult concept to grasp unless one is trying to rationalize abhorrent behavior.

This is not a debate about law as much as Don Diego wants to pretend it is.  The fact checkers have said as much.

This is simply a debate about discourse towards those seeking safe asylum in the United States.   You can process those people legally in a humane way....or you can be a dick and take away their kids.    Our current administration has voluntarily chosen to do the latter....and their alt-right supporters have given them their blessing in doing so.

People are free to pick a side about the right discourse to take in this situation -  but rationalizing it by pointing to a law that does not require this discourse or pretending the administration's hands are tied  is simply dishonest.  

If they truly wanted asylum why didn’t they cross at one of the crossing points, instead of sneaking across

Ahhhhh, . . . the question of asylum arises.

Whether by chance or design there actually are laws which pertain to those who seek asylum in the United States of America.

A sincere asylum-seeker may actually begin the process for applying for asylum by proceeding to a point-of-entry into the United States.

One who enters the United States iilegally sorta starts out on the wrong foot right from the git-go, as he is now an illegal alien and must apply through the Immigration Judge seeking asylum as a defense against removal from the United States. 

(Oh, . . . and once he's in, . . . who's to say he'll actually apply for asylum !)

"or you can be a dick and take away their kids." --- The only ones "being a dick" are the illegals using children as leverage so that they can enter the U. S, illegally. Every one who crosses the border illegally KNOWS that, if caught, their children ( if they are their children) will be separated from them while they are being checked out as to whether they are felons. The vetting process takes time, days, possibly weeks. Just what is P.J's. solution? I hear ALL of the complainging - but I don't hear a reasonable solution. Well President P. J. what do you have to say? Intelligent, law adiding American citizens want to know....

I am glad you asked that as that is what the Trump administration told asylum seekers to do. At the same time, they were telling asylum seekers to go to the ports of entry, they had the border patrol agents advance to the actual line of the border at the ports of entry to keep asylum seekers from being able to literally set foot in the U.S. to request asylum through official channels.  This resulted in the perverse effect of forcing those in legitimate need of asylum to cross the border illegally at which point they could be arrested under Trump’s zero-tolerance policy and separated from their children. 

I am sure such duplicity makes Nazis like Stephen Miller and Donald Trump swell with pride. 

For the record, NPR reports that: 

"Families that request asylum at ports of entry are [b]meant[/b] to be kept together while their claims are processed.

But there is evidence that [some] families who seek asylum at ports of entry are being separated." 

boldface added - DD

Wow, the horror of people being told they have to wait in line; so some cheat & try to sneak in

There is an adage that says; the first person to bring up nazis, automatically loses.  Mark loses