Inside Trump’s Gulags For Children

Mark- have someone you trust to read to you my above posting of Don Diego's post. Then have them explain to you the contents  and help you COMPREHEND what was said and what it means. Secondly, President Trump is "pulling an Obama" and using an "executive order", quelling the liberal shitstorm while finally getting Congress to get together to settle this problem. There will be no picnic for these lazy, worthless congressmen and women. Time to address this issue and get it resolved. Good luck with that though, the Democrats will, once again, refuse to have anything to do with this process. 

Originally posted by: tom

Wow, the horror of people being told they have to wait in line; so some cheat & try to sneak in

 

There is an adage that says; the first person to bring up nazis, automatically loses.  Mark loses


Indeed:

 

Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument.

Is there any adage about people who make claims Refuted by well documented facts?    Like the Trumpkins on this thread?

 

maybe we have enough to start one today.  How about we call it “tom’s Law”..or “the Diego  principle”.

   "Is there any adage about people who make claims Refuted by well documented facts?    Like the Trumpkins on this thread?

 

maybe we have enough to start one today.  How about we call it “tom’s Law”..or “the Diego  principle”." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------                   Or , P.J's. folly....

 


Originally posted by: David Miller

Mark- have someone you trust to read to you my above posting of Don Diego's post. Then have them explain to you the contents  and help you COMPREHEND what was said and what it means. Secondly, President Trump is "pulling an Obama" and using an "executive order", quelling the liberal shitstorm while finally getting Congress to get together to settle this problem. There will be no picnic for these lazy, worthless congressmen and women. Time to address this issue and get it resolved. Good luck with that though, the Democrats will, once again, refuse to have anything to do with this process. 


Executive orders can't nullify a law that is on the books.  At least that is what they taught me in law school. He is simply resending his zero-tolerance policy. I get it though. You carried Trump's water on this and now you have been left hanging as he has abandoned his previous position. 

I did not say his executive order was nulifying any law. First you say there is no law, then you say this. What is it you are trying to say? Apparently you just spew nonsense til someone gives in. As a child, you play your Mother and Father against each other til they gave up and let you have your way?  

Originally posted by: Don

Indeed:

 

Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument.


I believe Don and Tom are attempting to invoke Godwin’a law incorrectly. Godwin himself said back in 2017 it is ok to call a Nazi a Nazi.  At the time, he was referring to the participants of the Unite the Right march in Charlottesville.  

David, I was attempting to point out there is no law that requires the separation of children from their family despite your and Don's effort to repeatedly cite the same case over and over again. The policy was started in April of 2018 by Donald Trump.  Since it is a policy and not the law, it can be revoked by Trump simply saying I am revoking my prior policy. There is no act of Congress required to revoke a Presidential policy. 

Edited on Jun 20, 2018 1:48pm

Mark, people who commit other crimes are separated from their children when they are arrested. There is no law that requires, or even allows, the entire family to also remain together. There ARE laws against doing that.

 

Trump's executive order keeps the kids with their parents, and the left is still outraged. The ACLU and others will be filing law suits.

 

The liberal left:

 

Take kids from their detained illegal alien parents? You're literally Hitler.

 

Detain children with their illegal alien parents? You're literally Hitler. 

Bob, that is simply not true. People charged with misdemeanors don't have their children taken away.  Illegal entry is a misdemeanor for first-time offenders. The maximum sentence that can be imposed is 6 months. I can tell you from first-hand experience, almost anybody that is charged with a low-level misdemeanor in this country doesn't even get jail time for the offense if found guilty.  Nine times out ten they will get probation sometimes even non-reporting probation.  Often the charge is simply deferred until they complete their probation meaning it doesn't even go on their permanent record.  In a lot of jurisdictions, someone charged with a low-level misdemeanor won't even be arrested.  They will simply be given a summons to appear in court on a certain date. If they are arrested, they can usually bail out in under three hours. 

 

Even with a lot of felony charges, kids aren't separated from their parent and often the parent can bail out the same day. Even someone convicted of serious felony charges often has months if not a couple of years to make arrangements for the care of their children before they are sent to prison. 

 

Overall, your comparison or meme is weak. Shouldn't detainees charged with misdemeanors be given the same treatment as anyone else charged with a misdemeanor?   

 

 

Detain children with their illegal alien parents? You're literally Hitler.

 

Taking families and putting them in wire cages before the parents have been convicted of any crime is still an internment camp, isn't it? The upside is that Trump will only be able to inter them for twenty days now.

 
Edited on Jun 20, 2018 7:21pm
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