Joe Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive form' of prostate cancer with metastasis to the bone

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Isn't there a contradiction, or incongruity, or something, when a prominent figure such as an entertainer's, TV or movie star's, or POTUS's medical information is splashed all over the news, and a lowly nobody citizen faces a five-figure fine and possibly jail for even looking at the medical record of any person, let alone broadcasting it?  Most of us are familiar with HIPPA which is intended to protect persons from such disclosure when we go to the doctor or are hospitalized.

 

We all want to know.  We are all curious about our favorite celebrities.  Where is the line drawn?  Does a president HAVE TO accept such disclosure, and at what point?

 

And nobody needs to lecture me about a right to know the health status of those who lead our nation.  But is there such a right, and aren't there boundaries?    

 

I know the POTUS gets a routine health checkup every so often, the results of which are normally publicized in the press.  But how much detail is told, and does the president sign off on such disclosure.  Does that mean if he has a TIA or a bout with HTN or a URI or a UTI, or an STD is there no privacy?  Is he required to disclose everything?

 

Just wondering, always have.  They were so strict about it at work.  Our associated medical center often had celebrities of stage and screen as patients, usually for some serious cancer since the medical center was recognized as having world renown cancer expertise in some categories.   Once one of the young doctors happened to tell me he was on the medical team caring for a certain actor.  I was immediately in a state of being star struck and told the doctor "Oh, tell him I really enjoyed him in such and so movie."  YIKES, I knew better, just forgot for a moment.  And the doctor turned pale and never mentioned it again, 'cause he knew that if it was known that he let on to somebody NOT on his care team about him, that actor could file a complaint and there would be big trouble for everybody. 

 

It happened years ago at another hospital in town when a popular TV news anchor was attacked in her home, died at the hospital of her injuries.  A well regarded local MD, not on the anchor's care team, was found to have looked in her electronic medical record along with a couple of nursing staff while the anchor was in surgery.  (The computer system flagged the 'unauthorized viewing'.)   The MD had his license suspended for some months, and the nursing staff people were disciplines, some terminated.  And none of them had contacted the media.  Later the anchor's mother sued the hospital and the MD.  I don't know the outcome of that. 

 

Sorry to go on so long.  Still, thje initial question, where is the line, if any, drawn on presidential privacy of medical data? 

 

Candy


It is irrelevant because his team was hiding everything about him so they could just run the country and put the scarecrow in front of a camera while they did it.  

Originally posted by: tom

 

 

Why didn't he reveal his PSA levels like other presidents?

 


I didn't know this was a thing, I know every President since the 70's voluntarily released their tax returns, except for one. Since you have the info right in front of you, can you give me a rundown on PSA levels of Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, and Trump? Thanks.

Originally posted by: David Miller

  OK - Here is my question to you - Do you feel that it is more important to inform Americans the actual physical and mental condition of an acting President - or is it more important to Americans that they are not made aware that the person that is the President has physical and mental issues because the condition of their health should remain private?  


I don't have a satisfactory answer for you, David.  I can tell by the wording of your question.  Which is why I had posed my question first.  I wasn't looking for a fight. 

 

A dichotomy, just something that might be of interest HERE in the whirlwind of information and misinformation plastered in KS by a lot of already opinionated armchair medical experts, tied not to what is in everybody's best interest but to fiercely guarded loyalty to a party and the need to save face.  But I will try without putting a slant to it.

 

FDR tried to hide his infirmities, fearing folks' reactions.  Woodrow Wilson suffered the flu and subsequently a stroke in 1918, during the so-called (and erroneously named) Spanish Flu.  His wife ran all presidential affairs, unknown to the public.  Called the "secret presidency", there was no Internet or lightning fast news coverage.   

 

So, what is the danger when a sitting president becomes ill?  That's why we have what many other countries do not have, a Constitutionally prescribed orderly process for continuation of presidential duties in the event the pres is incapacitated.  Lyndon Johnson was immediately sworn in after JFK was pronounced dead.   I believe somebody was sworn in when Reagan had to go into surgery after being shot.  
General Anesthesia would incapacitate him for an unknown period, and unknown whether or not he would survive the surgery.

 

Wilson's wife taking over is probably not in that prescribed process, but apparently she did pretty well. WWI was going.  The 1918 pandemic was already underway, with states coping with it the best they knew how.  There was no vaccine on the horizon.  Congregation of persons in close quarters seems to have been the key as to which communities, businesses, schools, groups, etc. fared better or worse for the spread. 

 

Why the amount of outrage, angst, etc. here in KS regarding Biden possibly not being mentally fit, and at what point during his term?  Did our posters want to see a more visable possible transition of leadership to K. Harris?  Or just mad that something was happening that they didn't know about until recently?  Did Harris know more what was going on that was told to the public, the likelihood of her having to take over some duties?  Maybe it will come out, maybe not.

 

Whoever we vote for now and in the future, state level to Federal, having a lot of smart and courageous around the leader seems important, because an official leader is just one person.  JMHO.

 

Candy

Originally posted by: tom

You don't go to bed healthy and wake up with stage 4 cancer. 

 


The wife of one of my friends was diagnosed with stage 4 liver cancer, she had no idea or warning that she was sick until she felt under the weather and went to the doctor. Three weeks later, she died, on 10/31/2024.


Originally posted by: tom

You don't go to bed healthy and wake up with stage 4 cancer. 


"You USUALLY don't go to bed healthy and wake up with stage 4 cancer."   

 

There you go, fixed it for you.    

 

 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

The wife of one of my friends was diagnosed with stage 4 liver cancer, she had no idea or warning that she was sick until she felt under the weather and went to the doctor. Three weeks later, she died, on 10/31/2024.


So sorry for your and your friend's family's loss. 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

The wife of one of my friends was diagnosed with stage 4 liver cancer, she had no idea or warning that she was sick until she felt under the weather and went to the doctor. Three weeks later, she died, on 10/31/2024.


My mother lasted three weeks after she was diagned with stomach cancer--thst diagnosis was less than a month after her annual checkup, when she got a clean bill of health.

 

Stupid fucking Tom has absolutely no idea what he's babbling about.

Originally posted by: David Miller

  OK - Here is my question to you - Do you feel that it is more important to inform Americans the actual physical and mental condition of an acting President - or is it more important to Americans that they are not made aware that the person that is the President has physical and mental issues because the condition of their health should remain private?  


Millerscum asked a question in a civil manner, and for the first time in over 500 posts, didn't insult anybody, so I'll dignify him with an answer.

 

I've said it already, many times, that the only criterion that matters is whether the President is able to carry out the duties of his office. That's explicitly stated in the 25th Amendment. And that, in turn, is determined by the VP and the Cabinet--and ultimately, by the House and Senate. Not Fox Nooze. Not MAGA. Not the collective opinion of all the patrons of Rabid Jake's Bar and Massage Parlor. And sure as shit not the opinion of a bunch of  randos on an internet message board.

 

THEREFORE, Biden's medical condition should have remained private. The only valid question was whether he could do his job, and the only ones entitled to make that determination are listed above.

 

Period.

I concur with your last statement, Kevin.  

 

I can't tell if somebody was joking when asking if Biden had publicly reported his PSA results. 

Good for a belly laugh, though.

 

Candy

😂 I get kick out of conservatives complaining about Biden.  Your guy is mentally unstable, and in fact when he addressed the West Point graduates at their graduation ceremony this weekend rather than say something uplifting or praise the graduates for their accomplishments he rambled on about the dangers of trophy, wives. That dude needs his head examined. And all you conservatives are complicit in covering up his psychological conditions. 

It is also important to note that Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's when he started his second term and it was actively known by Republican Party officials/his advisors when he ran for that second term. Then during his second term they actively worked to cover it up and conceal this fact from the American public. 

And if we need to see Biden's PSA results we need access to the records concerning Trump's congestive heart failure. 

Edited on May 26, 2025 5:47pm
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