Katie Porter holds ‘F--- TRUMP’ sign at California Democratic convention

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I really don't understand what the fuck is wrong with saying or writing "fuck " It's just a fucking word, and has been part of the English language for at least a thousand fucking years.

 

I have even more trouble comprehending why anybody thinks that "f---" or "f***" are in any way whatsoever different from "fuck."

 

And as far as how Porter meant it, she wasn't expressing a desire to have sex with him (Jesus, who WOULD??). She was using the (very versatile) word in the sense of "fuck with" or "fuck up," as in, confound, frustrate, defeat, etc. Far from being an "obscenity," that's a truly noble statement.

 

Fuck Trump and the Vance he rode in on!


I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with using that word. I just don't feel a two word phrase on a piece of paper is a very effective or intelligent way to communicate. 

 

I expect politicians and other professionals to communicate intelligently using their vocabulary. I like them to express thoughts and ideas not bumper sticker slogans. 

She's desperate to jump start her campaign which has been floundering.    I liked her in Congress - she should have stayed there.     

Personally I hate the word.  I didn't grow up where it was in such common usage as it is now. "WTF" or similar usage doesn't shock me.  Stand up comics, they overuse it.  A 'properly placed' F bomb can get a funny point across.

 

But I'd rather not see it or hear it in the context of "F*** you" directed at anybody verbally or in writing.  JMHO. 

 

Candy

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Personally I hate the word.  I didn't grow up where it was in such common usage as it is now. "WTF" or similar usage doesn't shock me.  Stand up comics, they overuse it.  A 'properly placed' F bomb can get a funny point across.

 

But I'd rather not see it or hear it in the context of "F*** you" directed at anybody verbally or in writing.  JMHO. 

 

Candy


 Lewis does not consider that this is a public forum and that he is not holding court in a bar or with a group of others. His repeated foul language - which he spews with abandon - serves no real purpose except to debase and/or insult others and shows total disregard to civility.


Originally posted by: David Miller

 Lewis does not consider that this is a public forum and that he is not holding court in a bar or with a group of others. His repeated foul language - which he spews with abandon - serves no real purpose except to debase and/or insult others and shows total disregard to civility.


So what does "GFY" stand for?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

So what does "GFY" stand for?


Something about some fruit index I believe I heard.  

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Something about some fruit index I believe I heard.  


Yes, and David's other beloved go-to expression, "STFU," stands for "Some Tomatoes From Uruguay." Not sure what he means by that, but he sure uses it a lot.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Personally I hate the word.  I didn't grow up where it was in such common usage as it is now. "WTF" or similar usage doesn't shock me.  Stand up comics, they overuse it.  A 'properly placed' F bomb can get a funny point across.

 

But I'd rather not see it or hear it in the context of "F*** you" directed at anybody verbally or in writing.  JMHO. 

 

Candy


Well, in the case of Porter, she chose not to say, "Dear Leader Noble President Donald J. Trump, I am in disagreement with some of your policies," as MAGA might say if they were bold enough to even tentatively challenge him (and ICE agents would still be sent to kill their children). Why did she express herself as she did? Precisely for the "shock value." The outrage you genuinely feel, and the faux outrage the OP expressed, are kind of the whole point.

 

As to the filthy evilness of the "f-word," I have a somewhat broader perspective. I remember reading about the shock and horror when in 1939, Clark Gable told Vivian Leigh, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a DAMN." OOOOOOOOO! Or how in Victorian England, people said "Zounds!" because they didn't dare say, "God's wounds." (??) My point is, what's obscene or offensive is more a matter of current fashion than anything absolute. 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

She's desperate to jump start her campaign which has been floundering.    I liked her in Congress - she should have stayed there.     


She's always been too forthright and honest to succeed. I saw a few clips of her eviscerating Republicans during committee hearings. She tells it like it is about those scumbags who only pretend to tell it like it is.

 

To be a successful politician, you have to moderate and leaven your message, and she seems disinclined to do that. But then we're in the Trump "Piggy" era, so maybe bluntness is the new normal.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

 

 

As to the filthy evilness of the "f-word," I have a somewhat broader perspective. I remember reading about the shock and horror when in 1939, Clark Gable told Vivian Leigh, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a DAMN." OOOOOOOOO! Or how in Victorian England, people said "Zounds!" because they didn't dare say, "God's wounds." (??) My point is, what's obscene or offensive is more a matter of current fashion than anything absolute. 


I would say, like "in the eye of the beholder", obscene or offensive language is in the ear of the beholder.  

 

Me, I'm having to rein myself in on the d___ word and the s___ word.  They've become too easy to slip out in polite company, not justified by a situation like jamming a toe against furniture or slamming a finger in a door.

 

Candy

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