MAGA hate's it when the government picks winners and losers.

Except when they pick them.

Why ‘very large’ tax refunds are coming in 2026, according to officials - Here's a link.

"“The administration and Congress picked winners and losers. As a result, not all income is taxed equally,” Brewer said. “If your income is based largely on overtime or tips, then you could be paying much less income tax than your co-worker who is a salaried employee even if you earn roughly the same amount.”"

"Still, not all American taxpayers are projected to benefit from the Trump administration’s signature bill.

According to multiple analyses by nonpartisan, independent think tanks, the bill overwhelmingly favors some of the highest earners and businesses in the country.

A Congressional Budget Office analysis found that those in the top 10 percent would see an additional $12,000, while those in the poorest 10% would lose $1,600 annually, while also cutting Medicaid and food assistance."

Although according to Google AI the top 10% of taxpayers is really not that much:

"The estimated 2025 threshold for an individual to be in the top 10% is about \$155,042.

• The estimated 2025 threshold for a household to be in the top 10% is about \$251,036. "

Unless we have a flat tax or national sales tax I think there will always  be winners and losers.As an example, people that bought electric cars got all the tax credits, while people who didn't buy one had to pay for it

This would be a good poll if everyone would post the plus or minus for how they think it will effect them personally.  And then follow up after tax season to see the results.

What you're missing is that even those who didn't buy EVs benefited:

Reduced emissions/better air quality

Reduced demand for gasoline, thus lower prices

The existence of EVs forced automakers to make their conventionally powered vehicles more efficient

That overall broad effect is seen with ANY government policy that ostensibly only benefits a given segment of society. It's like property taxes going to support schools and people without school age children grumbling that they shouldn't have to pay as much. The overall community benefits, so as members of that community, they should pay their share.

It's utterly impossible to spread and smooth out every government tax and expenditure so that every dollar benefits everyone equally. We're a democratic socialist country. There is the concept of the common good. I'm not demanding that I derive direct benefit from every tax dollar. 

That said, the concept of marginal utility dictates that income taxation should be strongly progressive; the rich should pay more on a percentage basis. That $1600 kick in the nuts will hurt the poor far more than that $12,000 bonus will help the rich. The former group won't be able to afford food or medical care; the latter will be able to buy fancier cars.

@ Kevin

No..we're not a democratic socialist country ..yet. This ain't Portugal nor Finland. You best check the pure definition.

I knew somebody would object. The absolute truth is that we are indeed a social democracy and we do use many of the principles and practices of socialism.

That really kerfuffles MAGAs, who continually bleat about the evils of socialism. Socialism!! SOOOOOOCIALISM!!!! The uneducated--Trumpers--remember what Russia used to call itself and immediately think that anybody who's a socialist is a COMMIE! OOOH! The truth is that the USSR never practiced actual socialism, or actual communism for that matter. It was an oligarchal dictatorship.

You may have gotten confused, because the most precise term is "social democracy." But "democratic socialist country" means the exact same thing.

The degree to which a country honestly identifies itself as socialist depends on its policies and ideology. You can interpret "social democracy" as "socialism, but with democratic values and practices." Collectivist societies aren't necessarily democratic; hence the distinction.

My point exactly. Why don't the MAGA folks understand this when a Dem is in office is the puzzler.

I still have to contest the idea that there are such things as "winners and losers" just because some people benefit directly from tax policies and some don't. I don't think that I "lose" when my tax dollars go to support some demographic that I'm not a part of, a program in which I don't participate, or a policy to which I'm indifferent. When Democrats are in control, I expect my tax dollars to be spent for the common good. When Republicans are in power, I expect my tax dollars to be stuffed into the pockets of the rich. So I guess that at present, we're all losers, except for the top 1%. But that's not the way it's supposed to work.

When Democrats are in control, I expect my tax dollars to be spent for the common good.

kevin must very disappointed.

We have $9B stolen by Somalis in Mn & $75B missing in Ca.

The California State Auditor’s recent report paints a troubling picture of governance under Governor Gavin Newsom. The audit uncovers approximately $76.5 billion in waste and fraud across several state agencies,

Arizona Senate Majority Leader Janae Shamp, House Majority Leader Michael Carbone, and other Republican lawmakers released a report showing that 130,000 of 388,000 state residents who applied for Medicaid last year were not verified, suggesting up to $6 billion a year in Medicaid fraud. The report showed that only 24 percent of Arizonans who applied for Medicaid were properly vetted, and of those who were vetted properly, 34 percent should not have been accepted into the program but received Medicaid benefits anyway.

Medicare and Medicaid admit that $100B is fraud, the real number is probably higher

Here is some more.

A report by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) recently revealed billions in taxpayer funds that went to "questionable" rental assistance recipients

The recipients included approximately 30,000 deceased tenants and thousands of potential non-citizens, according to a copy of HUD's "Agency Financial Report" for fiscal year 2025

HUD officials told the Post that a "large concentration" of the funds went to New York, California and Washington, D.C., with deceased recipients getting funds in all 50 states.

The department conducted an automation that compared a U.S. Treasury database to HUD's records. The process uncovered 30,054 deceased tenants who were either actively enrolled in rental assistance programs or had received assistance after they passed, according to HUD's report. The department found the possibly problematic payments through its own internal financial review and analytics, according to the report

First of all, stupid Trump-licking asshole Tom climbs right aboard the Turd's shiny new Somali hate wagon. That didn't take long! What a loyal slave!

But let's address stupid Tom's fake concern about Medicare/Medicaid "fraud " That term means that someone not entitled to medical care receives medical care.

I'm not sending my garments in anguish over that. I'm better off if the people in my community are healthy. That's not just fuzzy-wuzzy--it's concrete. Contagious diseases are better controlled, for example. 

But stupid Tom doesn't want Medicare/Medicaid fraud? Fine! Let's go to single-payer universal healthcare! Everybody gets medical care, like in virtually all of the civilized world! Then the question of eligibility is moot!

And who's responsible for the inefficient system we have today? The Republicans/MAGAs who have opposed decent healthcare for decades and stupid Tom worships and blindly obeys.

So if stupid Tom doesn't like fraud (we know he really doesn't give a shit), he should stop voting for the people who support a system that creates and encourages it.

Stupid Tom.

new Somali hate wagon

90% of the convictions in the $9B fraud case are Somali.  Fraud is fraud, who commits it is irrelvant,

That term means that someone not entitled to medical care receives medical care.

kevin is wrong again.  Much of the fraud consists of money going to phantom companies, phantom patients.  HUD was paying dead people.

Let's go to single-payer universal healthcare!

So kevin wants to spend even more money on programs where hundreds of billions are already stolen

he should stop voting for the people who support a system that creates and encourages it.

I don't vote democrat who created these programs