No one is going to jail. No one is losing their right to vote. Even though the deaths were caused by criminally negligent executives, none of them face any personal responsibility, either criminally or financially.
The American Way.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/16/camp-fire-pg-e-pleads-guilty-84-counts-manslaughter-2018-blaze/3199591001/
I have three friends who lost their two houses in the Paradise fire. One was insured; the other was not. They received some FEMA money to relocate. They are also plaintiffs in the ongoing civil action against PG&E. I assume that the criminal conviction will make it much easier for the civil cases to move forward.
Realistically, you can't hold executives individually responsible for something like this, because then, no sane person would ever serve on the board of a public utility. Little Johnny falls into a sewer pipe and drowns, everybody goes to jail. That's just not feasible.
I found this whole incident tragic, but also somewhat ironic. Paradise was a very very very very conservative Trumper town full of old people. As rabid conservatives, they had always been climate change deniers. The fire that destroyed the town was the fourth large fire in a decade. It used to me that in the Sierra foothills, the rainy season began in mid-October. Now, you don't see rain until Thanksgiving. Paradise wouldn't have been a tinderbox if it hadn't been for that Chinese liberal hoax fake news climate change. In prior years, it would have rained several times by Nov. 9. I wonder if the fire created any believers.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Realistically, you can't hold executives individually responsible for something like this, because then, no sane person would ever serve on the board of a public utility. Little Johnny falls into a sewer pipe and drowns, everybody goes to jail. That's just not feasible.
Who's talking about corporate board members? I guarantee you that there is a paper trail showing which executives committed negligent manslaughter. Lock 'em up.
When is President Trump going to be blamed?
Originally posted by: MisterPicture
Who's talking about corporate board members? I guarantee you that there is a paper trail showing which executives committed negligent manslaughter. Lock 'em up.
The fire was caused by aboveground power lines swaying in a high wind and contacting dry branches. The lines were aboveground rather than buried because of pressure from local homeowners and small municipalities, who didn't want to grant easements to dig.
The lines weren't expected to move as much as they did, because the winds were unusual in two ways: very high velocity and coming from the east. PG&E was negligent in not trimming the tree branches so that they couldn't contact the power lines. But it would not normally have been an issue by late fall, because it would have rained several times by then and the prevailing winds were usually from the west.
Whatever middle-level functionary was responsible for that maintenance definitely blew it. But again, you can't say that if someone fails at a maintenance task and the result is a death or deaths, you're going to string that guy up. There's always a backlog of stuff to do, and this WAS a freak occurrence.
If you want to "blame" anyone, blame building relentlessly up into forest land, and the various entities that discouraged burying the power lines, which PG&E or any other utility would much rather do than stringing them up on poles.
Blame trump? How can we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHJO8bCgI4
The Dotard didn't even know the town's name.
Originally posted by: Vegas Todd
Blame trump? How can we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHJO8bCgI4
The Dotard didn't even know the town's name.
The Paradise fire was one of the very few disasters in the last four years that Trump didn't cause. He was initially quite happy to find out that 85 Californians had died but was chagrined when it was pointed out to him that most of them were Trumpers.
My friends who were burned out told me that FEMA was very slow and unresponsive in the weeks following the disaster. We know that Trump cut off aid to Puerto Rico but lavished it on Florida and Texas after deadly hurricanes struck all those places, because according to him, only Trumper states deserve disaster aid. I don't know if he knew that Paradise was in California.
" He was initially quite happy to find out that 85 Californians had died" - Really? Do you have any proof?
If our resident Liberals are calling for jail time for the utility management, they must certainly be demanding even longer jail time for New York Governor Cuomo. He, of course, sent many known corona positive old people back to the old folks homes. The same homes that everyone knew were incapable of protecting the uninfected. Over 6000 of these old folks died.
Apparently I missed Mister's post addressing this, but I was out of pocket playing golf for several days. Mister, please bump this thread as I'm anxioius to read it.
The liberals and the media need to answer the question of as to why -
