Me watch foobaw today

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Suspect all you want. Why do you care, unless you want to make some stupid point?

 

You can look up, if you want, whether college football teams usually make or lose money. You'll find that they almost always lose money, and I'm talking about football teams exclusive of the athletic departments as a whole. It's certainly true that they bring in revenues, but those aren't enough to pay for the often massive expenses the teams rack up--aside from coaches' salaries, upkeep of stadiums, etc. etc.

 

Alumni donations don't enter into it because you can't say that those donations are made exclusively because of the football team. Also, alumni donations could be channeled to other purposes rather than being soaked up by the football team's shortfall.

 

I researched the exact situation you describe. I obtained the budgets for the athletic department and for each program. There was no program that returned positive net revenue. The men's and women's basketball, baseball/softball, track, etc. etc. etc. teams--they all lost money. But the football team dwarfed all others in net revenue loss, even though it also dwarfed all others in gross revenue. Its expenses, including the million-dollar coach, were huge.

 

I spent 20+ hours researching and writing this for my article. You can believe me or not. I don't give a shit either way.


Kevin, apparently you should have spent 30 hours researching.

Once again Kevin shows how dumb he is, by not knowing what positive net revenue is. 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Kevin, apparently you should have spent 30 hours researching.


To repeat, I don't give a shit whether you or that moron Tom believe me or not. Come up with some facts to refute what I said. Pick any ten-year period in the last fifty years and get figures of the U of Oregon's football team's expenditures and revenues. Come up with a net figure. (Do NOT include donations unless those donations were specifically earmarked for the football team.)

 

Otherwise, piss off.

Originally posted by: tom

Once again Kevin shows how dumb he is, by not knowing what positive net revenue is. 


I know very well what net revenue is, moron. What stupid point are you trying to make?


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

To repeat, I don't give a shit whether you or that moron Tom believe me or not. Come up with some facts to refute what I said. Pick any ten-year period in the last fifty years and get figures of the U of Oregon's football team's expenditures and revenues. Come up with a net figure. (Do NOT include donations unless those donations were specifically earmarked for the football team.)

 

Otherwise, piss off.


How about the past decade, Kevin.  It's easy enough to find, if you look.  Here's just one year.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/oregon-ducks/oregon-football-most-valuable-program-pac-12-conference

Revenue less expenses is not net revenue. 

Originally posted by: tom

Revenue less expenses is not net revenue. 


That would be net income.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

That would be net income.


Actually, gross revenue is all monies collected from a given economic activity. Net revenue is gross revenue minus the expenses directly associated with generating that revenue.

 

Income is a broader category. It is the sum of all revenues from all economic activity plus the sum of all passive income (that not generated by direct economic activity, such as bond interest).

 

One can arrive at net income by adding up revenues and passive income and then subtracting all expenses, or by expensing revenues first individually, then adding them to the balance sheet. The latter method is preferred because it's more flexible, especially at tax time.

 

Tom is, as is so often the case, confused.

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