NDBC

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I could ignore you, and I often choose to do exactly that. Sometimes I respond when you spout a particularly egregious stupid Trumper lie. In such cases, I'm responding to the lie, not you. You are of no importance.

 

And BTW, I call it "Stalker" because it has threatened to find me and kill me on two separate occasions, and other forum participants as well. Not that it actually has the balls to do any such thing.


Eh.  You have responded to every post i've made since you said you were going to ignore me.  Let's just examine your behavior in this very thread.  My original post in this thread was simply to point out why NBC had to apologize over their Meet the Press segment.  Was that a "Particularly egregious stupid Trumper lie?"  Of course not.  It was the truth....as supported by NBC and Chuck Todd's apology.  So how do you respond to my well reasoned statement?

 

"Charles supports the lying Trump lackey, Barr (no one disputes that he lied about the findings of the Mueller report, among many, many other things). He supports Trump, the pathological liar.

 

Charles loves, supports, and admires liars. Barr may have been misquoted this one time. That doesn't excuse his dozens of bald-faced lies in the past."

 

This is simply a personal attack on me.  It is not in any way responding to my argument.  You are so filled with hate for President Trump you can't ignore me.  And since you can't address my argument, you choose to just insult me.  It doesn't bother me.  I pitty and forgive you because I really think you are so obsessed with your hate for our President that it's become a mental health issue for you.  I hope you can overcome it.

Originally posted by: MisterPicture

Snowflakes get in an uproar about this sort of thing. Don is a snowflake.


Thanks !  DonDiego is indeed unique and cool, . . . and relatively symmetrical, . . . not to mention white-ish. 

 

However, MisterPicture has miscalculated poor old DonDiego's age cohort by several decades.  The snowflake-generation is defined by Collins English Dictionary as "young adults of the 2010's".

Originally posted by: Charles

And now Chuck Todd has apologized with the following statement:   

 

“In the full version of the interview and transcript, he went on to say, ‘But I think a fair history would say that it was a good decision because it upheld the rule of law.’ Now, we did not edit that out. That was not our edit. We didn’t include it because we only saw the shorter of two clips that CBS did air.

 

“We should have looked at both and checked for a full transcript. A mistake that I wish we hadn’t made and one I wish I hadn’t made. The second part of the Attorney General’s answer would have put it in the proper context. Had we seen that part of the CBS interview, I would not have framed the conversation the way I did, and I obviously am very sorry for that mistake. We strive to do better going forward.”

 

Soooo.  I was correct when I stated that 'it's almost like Todd only saw the cut version'.  Todd admits they got it wrong.  That his discussion was framed without the proper context and he is sorry for his mistake. 

 

So why did PJ go to great lengths to try to spin this the way he did?  Could it be that he hates Trump so much that he can't face the real facts....or maybe he just doesn't care.?  At least Chuck Todd was man enough to apologize for his mistake.

 

What else can I help with today? 


I cant help what Chuck Todd does.   He's obviously getting bad advice.   I can only speak to how the English language works.    You keep insisting Barr was making a case for his decision that was nefariously censored by NBC.

 

The part that was censored does not make a case for anything.   THats not my opinion.   Thats grammatical fact.    I spelled it out for you earlier.   Feel free to point out the error in my assessment.

 

And have a great day !

''At least Chuck Todd was man enough to apologize for his mistake.''

 

Therein lies the difference between a man and a trump.


Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I cant help what Chuck Todd does.   He's obviously getting bad advice.   I can only speak to how the English language works.    You keep insisting Barr was making a case for his decision that was nefariously censored by NBC.

 

The part that was censored does not make a case for anything.   THats not my opinion.   Thats grammatical fact.    I spelled it out for you earlier.   Feel free to point out the error in my assessment.

 

And have a great day !


Dude you're making this too dificult.  Chuck Todd admitted he only saw the original clip.  He thought Barr only said that the way history will judge this depends on who does the writing.  He really attacked Barr for not claiming that history will judge this favorably because he was 'upholding the rule of law'.  In fact Barr did claim that very thing in the next sentence that was cut.  Todd did not know that and obviously did not watch the entire interview.

 

Notice how I bolded the word 'claiming'.  Your error is basing your argument on your parsing of 'basic grammer' that Barr did not technicaly make any case in the single sentence that was cut.   Well duh...that's what the entire 15 minute interview was about. That's what the 105 page legal filing was about.  The single sentence of Barr was a the bottom line of the interview and the legal filing where he discussed his reasoning in detail.

 

Todd admitted he framed the conversation based on his mistaken and cynical impression that Barr felt history will only vindicate the winners and that Barr had no interest in how the decision supports of the rule of law. Todd admitted that if he had seen the cut portion (or preferrably the entire interview) he would never have made the statement he did.  That should tell you everything you need to know about what he said and what he meant.  He could have said as PJ suggests that the sentence made no case and therfore he was technically correct, but he chose to be honest about what he really meant.

 

I respect a man who admits his mistakes.  PJ not so much.

 

your lack of respect is crushing.

 

Every point you've made on this thread is factually incorrect.

- Barr did not say the oppositte of his aired statment in the part that was unaired as you claimed

- Barr did not make the case for rule of law in his unaired segment as you claimed.

 

All Barr did was offer an opinion.   

And so did  2000 former DOJ officals in a bipartisan tsunami have published an open letter saying that Barr's ruling is not only inconsistent with the rule of law but is so eggregious that it demands his resignation in disgrace.   Chuck Todd did not include that in his segment either.     Maybe he'll apologize later today.

 

 

Edited on May 13, 2020 9:59am
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

your lack of respect is crushing.

 

Every point you've made on this thread is factually incorrect.

- Barr did not say the oppositte of his aired statment in the part that was unaired as you claimed

- Barr did not make the case for rule of law in his unaired segment as you claimed.

 

All Barr did was offer an opinion.   

And so did  2000 former DOJ officals in a bipartisan tsunami have published an open letter saying that Barr's ruling is not only inconsistent with the rule of law but is so eggregious that it demands his resignation in disgrace.   Chuck Todd did not include that in his segment either.     Maybe he'll apologize later today.

 

 


Todd apologized because he mischaracterized what AG Barr said because Todd never saw what was cut.  He admitted that.  What part of that don't you understand?  How can you claim Chuck Todd was right when he admits he was wrong?  You're more concerned about grammer and weasel wording this than context and content.  Sad.  Pretty soon you're going to be arguing about what the meaning of the word is is.

 

How many of those 2000 'bipartisan' former DOJ officials are Republicans? 

 

NBC's Chuck Todd Apologizes

 

 

Originally posted by: Don

 

NBC's Chuck Todd Apologizes

 

 


Yes. Unlike Barr--or Trump--he's man enough to admit when he gets something wrong.

Logic puzzle!

 

A. Trump is a chronic liar and attacks anyone who points that out.

B. Charles is a subservient Trump ball-licker.

C. Charles is a chronic liar and attacks anyone who points that out.

 

The question is: is C a direct result of A and B?

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