New Medicare for All Study: Will Save Americans $450 Billion and Prevent 68,000 Unnecessary Deaths Every Year

Originally posted by: tom

These estimates are usually 10 year estimates. I thought you bright guys would have known that. 

As usual mark misquotes. The Mercatus study says M4A could cost the Fede an additional $32 trillion, NOT doing nothing. 

 

The feds spend $1 trillion on health care. The estimate calls for $30 trillion above that. 

As usual the 3 Stooges ignore that present Medicare has a $50 trillion unfunded deficit. 

Medicare recipients have to pay $144 per month. They still have to pay copays, unless they get an Advantage program which is an additional premium. For an additional premium one can get a prescription plan. Dental & eyeglass aren't covered. 

But somehow this will vanish under sanders. 


"The feds spend $1 trillion on health care." Over what period?

"The estimate calls for $30 trillion above that." Over what period?

 

Tom, are you really so stupid as to think that those two numbers refer to the same time period?? Federal expenditures over ten years, even if nothing changes, will be much more than $1 trillion.

 

Also, you're conveniently ignoring the $35 trillion that private citizens wouldn't have to spend over those ten years. What about that, Trumper idiots? Gonna talk about costs without also talking about savings?

 

You poor saps can't even argue coherently. I mean, I know you're against health care (for whatever stupid reason), but you haven't told us WHY you think this country is better off without it.

Huh, The majority of the candidates running from your party with the exception of Crazy Bernie say that it is not affordable? What gives you the magic potion? Butta#ucker tried to point that out last night but they just talked right over him.

Edited on Feb 20, 2020 7:54am

When a Democrat tells me Mexico will pay for our healthcare I'll be concerned....which puts me light years ahead of our boards FOX News viewers who voted for the current trillion dollar deficit administration.

 

Republicans suck at math.   They dont consider the costs of what other countries pay for universal healthcare.  They only conisder dynamic scoring that tells them their spending somehow magically reconciles itself....or is paid for by another country.

 

 

Do your IQ a favor.   DOnt discuss budgets with people who thing  Tucker Carlson is a news show.

Who voted for the former trillion dollar deficits during Obama's two administrations?


Originally posted by: David Miller

Who voted for the former trillion dollar deficits during Obama's two administrations?


uh..nobody.   

 

Amending my previous statement:    Dont discuss budgets with people who believe Tucker Carlson is a news show....or who have been brainswashed to believe there were 2 trillion dollar budget deficits under the Obama administration

 

 

thanks for stopping by

Sure. Brainwashed? Now that is funny coming from you...

The 3 stooges complain about deficits, but are all in on a multi trillion spending program with no real plan to pay for it. 

Yes, we complain about rising deficits under Republicans....and cheer shrinking deficits under Democrats.  While you do the oppossite.   Hence my statement.

 

 

Look on the bright side, Tom.   Soon Trump will be out of office and you can go back to your favorite game where you cry and blame Democrats for the fiscal nightmare left to them by the shortbus retards you voted for.   oh -  And cry about golf too.   History  has an interesting way of repeating itself.

Edited on Feb 20, 2020 7:54pm
Originally posted by: tom

The 3 stooges complain about deficits, but are all in on a multi trillion spending program with no real plan to pay for it. 


And our Trumptards whine about how much universal healthcare will cost, but don't seem concerned about Trump's economy-busting deficits. (And yes, it will take a while for those full effects to be felt. The Republihole way to pay bills is to force your children to pay them.)

 

The "multi-trillion spending program" (OOOOOOOO!!) will be paid for by taxation, just like any other government program. I can see that Tom is afraid of big numbers, so why isn't he afraid of the $3.5 trillion that Americans spend on health care every year?

 

If American citizens don't have to cough up $3.5 trillion a year to pay for their health care, they will be able to afford the higher taxes that will be imposed to pay for universal health care. We've already tried to explain to you that to receive the same level of care we get by spending $3.5 trillion a year, we'd have to pay $3.2 trillion a year in taxes.

 

And here's a revelation for you, Tom...$3.2 trillion is less than $3.5 trillion.

Nobody "votes for" budget deficits, stupid. If you vote for Trump in November, you'll be voting for someone who thinks that deficits don't matter.

 

How come you whined and whined and whined and whined and whined about the deficits during the initial years of the Obama administration (which eventually shrank) but are strangely silent about the historically YUGE deficits under Trump--which are only going to get larger?

 

Are you a hypocrite? Or just a loyal Trumptard?

 

Edited on Feb 20, 2020 8:11pm
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