Next Libs will tell us that school grades are racist..............what, they already told us that.

I thought the bad grades were the fault of the "crappy liberal public school" which is why you wanted to give them a choice.   But now you're saying bad grades are because of bad students.....and they shouldn't get a choice.      Which then means the crappy liberal schools arent to blame.    Yet another contradiciton.

Voucher programs allow students to change schools regardless of grades.   Thats true in Indiana ...and thats true in California.   But you have different standards depending on the politics of the state.   That justpoints to the fact you dont really have an ideology - you're just scrubbing through articles looking for something to shit on liberals about even if it contradicts something else you;ve said.

I would say that crappy grades happen for varied reasons.  #1, the parents don't give a shit, so the kid doesn't give a shit.  I wrote parents, but it's more likely a single "parent".  Oh, and Libs won't allow any discussion on how being a single how single parenting tends to work out poorly for the kids.  #2.  Total lack on school discipline.  Libs continue to fight for no dress codes and whine when punks get kicked out of school for being punks.  These schools fear being labeled as racist, so they let the black kids run roughshod over the school.  This is not good for any student, and it's the worst for the kids who allowed to act like punks at school.  My town's high school cleaned this shit up a decade ago after a real leader came in.  The black kids are doing much better now.  #3.  The black community largely doesn't see the value in education.  Why would they after listening to Liberal leaders telling them their entire lives that they can't succeed in life due to the evil white man.

Liberal policies are the main reasons the shitty schools turn out little effort and poor education.  Let the kids who want to get out, get out, after he proves his interest through effort.

I wont even touch the ignorance of your new three points resulting from the backpeddling of your original ones.

The fact is the "conservative Indiana" program doesnt work the way you outline.....and neither does the one in California (the school of which you critique is largely considerd the best in the nation BTW)....   but you cheer the former system and jeer the latter.     Which means you dont believe your own bullshit which is what I've been saying.    Notice how I dont have to backpeddle and parse my point. 

Have a  great day.

The fact is that 100,000 Indiana parents agree with me.  You can show me all the agenda based stuidies you like, but these 50,000 families are living proof that these schools are succeeding.

And I walked back nothing.  If I had said that Harvard should be open to students of all colors, would you assume that I meant that Harvard should ignore SAT scores and grades?  Nope, people of any color who reach the qualification standards should be admitted to Harvard.  That is and has always been my stance.

The same thing goes for charter schools.  Part of wanting to go to a specific school includes proving it through effort.  Libs hate that.

Oh, yes, you most certainly do walk back everything.

Now you're saying the success of Indiana's program is based upon "people agreeing to send their kids to other schools"...but you grade the  program in California based upon grades and test scores.

Both programs work the same way with the same criteria, the same parental agreement, and the same academic results.   But you stumble all over yourself trying to promote one and talk shit about the other....because ...um..."liberals"  and "conservatives"..         You cant keep you own shit straight which is amusing to me.  

Boiler's racism shows in every one of the pitiful arguments and rants he posts.

And despite what he claims, children of liberals perform MUCH higher at all school levels than children of ignorant conservitard assholes.