Pence, Biden who is most electable

Should Trump not be able to continue, I assume Pence would become the GOP nominee. Does that help or hurt the GOP in the upcoming election.

W-w-w-wipe-out.

Trump's white nationalist base doesn't like Pence and they would not turn out for him. On the other hand, it would probably help vunurbale Republican Senators in blue states.

I have yet to meet an undecided voter in this election.   

I dont think swapping out Pence would make a difference at this point.  But as far as I know his debate is still scheduled.  I would expect that to be a more civil affair than whatever that last thing was.   


Truth is I am not even sure Pence would be the Presidental candidate if something happens to Trump.  It is too late to take Trump's name off the ballot

 

Originally posted by: Mark

Trump's white nationalist base doesn't like Pence and they would not turn out for him. On the other hand, it would probably help vunurbale Republican Senators in blue states.


So the Dems won't take the Senate? 

 

If the Dems take the White House, keep the House and retake the Senate, they could reverse all of Trump's work.  Maybe impeaching some Supreme Court Justices and pushing through One Payor Health care. It could be monumental. 

Originally posted by: cjen

So the Dems won't take the Senate? 

 

If the Dems take the White House, keep the House and retake the Senate, they could reverse all of Trump's work.  Maybe impeaching some Supreme Court Justices and pushing through One Payor Health care. It could be monumental. 


They would have to abolish the Senate filibuster to pass anything that doesn't involve tax reform (which can be passed like Republicans did with reconciliation).    Anything with Immigration, gun reform, healthcare, voting legislation, and infrastructure will require 60 votes in the Senate under the current rules which Democrats will not have under even the most optimistic election results.   But they could kill the filibuster which would move that to a 51 vote requirement.     That would be contentious .... but then again, so was Mitch McConnell's bullshit with Marrick Garland.

 

If nothing else a Biden presidency would reset much of the corruption and incompetence in the Executive Branch.

 

Imagine:

Having a Secretary of Education that isn't against public Education

Having someone run the Consumer Protections Bureau that isn't ideologicaly oppossed to its existance

Having Interior/Energy secretaries and an EPA Administrator  that aren't sponcered by the fossil Fuel industry

Having an Attorney General that isn't the president's personal fixer

Having a president that doesn't line his own pockets with taxpayer money at his prviate enterprise ventures

Having a president that tries to bring peace in our streets instead of picking a side in a race war.

Having a preesident that makes decisions based upon the greater good instead of "who likes/dislikes him"

Having a president that attends and reads his daily security briefings

Having a president that defers to experts on things like pandemics/climate/trade and economics.

Having someone smarter than the president's son-in-law oversee critical foreign and domestic policy

Having a president that honors and humbles himself before our verterans and wounded soldiers

Having a president who can rise above engaging with D-List celebrities in a Twitter feud.

Reseting friendly relationships with Western allies and confronting hostile autocracies

 

Trump has set the bar pretty low.    And thats pretty sad.    I think the country will breathe a collective sigh of relief once Vanilla Bean, Joe Biden, takes over.

 

 

If Trump dies, the RNC doesn't have to put Pence in the top slot, and probably won't. Whoever they replaced Trump with would probably actually have a better shot at winning than Trump at this point. So I hope Trump survives. And suffers.

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