A politically neutral analysis of the shooting of Alex Preti from a use of force expert.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Thanks.  The whistle stressed me out just watching the video from hundreds of miles away, in the comfort of my home.  Imagine the impact on the officers.  Not excusing, but guessing how much worse it made what they thought was their job, ability to properly assess and act.

 

Candy


I agree with you. As I watched I was also thinking about how it probably made it more difficult for Alex Preti as well. It almost certainly hindered the ability for him and agents to clearly communicate with each other. 

 

More about pepper spray: it is highly effective. It causes a lot of pain and almost always changes ones behavior. It can cause temporary blindness and shortness of breath.

 

The good thing is there is very little risk of serious injury when used properly. If used properly it actually has less risk of serious injury than punching, shoving, or tackling someone. 

 

I have some training and experience using it. Watching videos of the way some federal agents have been using it leads me to suspect they either have very little training with it  or have ignored whatever training they have. 

 

This is even more true with the way I've seen agents use projectile weapons such as pepper balls and rubber bullets. 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I agree with you. As I watched I was also thinking about how it probably made it more difficult for Alex Preti as well. It almost certainly hindered the ability for him and agents to clearly communicate with each other. 

 

More about pepper spray: it is highly effective. It causes a lot of pain and almost always changes ones behavior. It can cause temporary blindness and shortness of breath.

 

The good thing is there is very little risk of serious injury when used properly. If used properly it actually has less risk of serious injury than punching, shoving, or tackling someone. 

 

I have some training and experience using it. Watching videos of the way some federal agents have been using it leads me to suspect they either have very little training with it  or have ignored whatever training they have. 

 

This is even more true with the way I've seen agents use projectile weapons such as pepper balls and rubber bullets. 

 


 Pretti wasn't so "innocent" and the DemocRATs are making the most of his death -  https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-appears-show-alex-pretti-spit-federal-agents-violently-damage-suv-days-before-fatal-cbp-shooting

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Pretti wasn't so "innocent" and the DemocRATs are making the most of his death -  https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-appears-show-alex-pretti-spit-federal-agents-violently-damage-suv-days-before-fatal-cbp-shooting


Gasp, he vandalized a car assuming it was true.  That changes nothing about the rwhat happened the day of the shooting. 

Originally posted by: Mark

Gasp, he vandalized a car assuming it was true.  That changes nothing about the rwhat happened the day of the shooting. 


 Look closely and you will see in this video his weapon on his right hip, the same right hip he was reaching for on the day he was shot. He went there looking for trouble, found it and died because of his actions. Did he deserve to die - no, but he did set the table - he certainly did. So stop with the innocent bullshit, this video and the other later videos show who instigated all of these events.


Originally posted by: David Miller

 Pretti wasn't so "innocent" and the DemocRATs are making the most of his death -  https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-appears-show-alex-pretti-spit-federal-agents-violently-damage-suv-days-before-fatal-cbp-shooting


I give you my word I fully intend to watch the video that you posted.

 

 But first may I ask you a question? Have you watched the video I posted in the original post in this thread? 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I give you my word I fully intend to watch the video that you posted.

 

 But first may I ask you a question? Have you watched the video I posted in the original post in this thread? 


 No. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

 No. 


Do you plan to? I mean it's only fair right?

 

There is already an active thread discussing the Alex Prity incident generally. 

 

This thread was created about a specific video. A video that is (mostly) politically neutral. It was intended to seek comments about the content of the video. 

 

 I'm happy to watch videos that others post in this thread. But don't you think the respectful thing to do would be to at least watch the topic video before posting your own video?

 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Do you plan to? I mean it's only fair right?

 

There is already an active thread discussing the Alex Prity incident generally. 

 

This thread was created about a specific video. A video that is (mostly) politically neutral. It was intended to seek comments about the content of the video. 

 

 I'm happy to watch videos that others post in this thread. But don't you think the respectful thing to do would be to at least watch the topic video before posting your own video?

 

 


   Fair? This isn't a contest. I might watch the video you posted - I might not. Personally I have seen enough videos and I tire of all of the analysis. All that I know for certain is that this guy is no longer alive. Everything that happened was because he alone made the decisions that put him there. Hopefully no one else does something similar and loses their life. 

My take is that everything that happened was because the Trump administration deployed a bunch of masked, poorly trained and brutal personnel to Minnesota.  Who didn't see all of this coming?

Edited on Jan 29, 2026 1:56am
Originally posted by: David Miller

   Fair? This isn't a contest. I might watch the video you posted - I might not. Personally I have seen enough videos and I tire of all of the analysis. All that I know for certain is that this guy is no longer alive. Everything that happened was because he alone made the decisions that put him there. Hopefully no one else does something similar and loses their life. 


Well for the record after I asked you  I did watch the video you posted. It turned out to be the same video you posted in a different thread. 

 

My respectful request is that you watch the video that is the topic of this thread before commenting further in this thread. 

 

Obviously I cannot force you to one of those request.

 

Regardless of your answer I will give you my word that anytime you start a thread about a video I will watch that video before commenting in the thread. 

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