President Donald Trump has ordered troops to protect Portland, Oregon, and any Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities threatened by Antifa.

Crime is down drastically in almost every city.     Trump wants you to get used to the idea of having Federal Military in your streets.      He's using  "out of control crime" as the excuse.     Good thing he has lots of people like Nines who willingly fall for it.

You too, PJ? You have no idea what I've either fallen nor not fallen for . You think I worship Trump..you're abhorrently wrong. So is your buddy Kevin though both of you will deny it because you're so washed in the liberal mantra. I'll accept the conservative label but not the Trump Disciple moniker, even though I do approve of some of his policies. That's my business, not yours. Your Trump hatred and despisement overrides all issues and conditions ; it resembles an old governor on older model lawnmower engines ..it's the  overriding control feature of your outlook. But carry on as if you know what you're talking about..even though you don't. I know what the general crime trend is in general..many cities rates are indeed down. And don't concern yourself, Inspector. Trump doesn't have time to affix the military in our national streets as a general overall permanent fixture.

 

Like your buddy Kevin you have no faith in the longstanding system of checks and balances in this land; and you think I'm delusional because I still believe in them. You're at times reasonable in here, but you're as delusional as Kevin with the above post. I really don't care if you and Kevin doubt that there has been a problem in Portland recently. Believe what blows your dress up because, despite what you and your ilk sidle up to, it's still a free country. And , Eureka..you can still try and vote your way to your version of Utopia beginning in '26. Go ahead on. 

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What Checks and Balances do you honestly think are in place in the current environment?

Sepearation of Powers means cities and states patrol their own streets for local crime.    And they dont enforce Federal crime.    Thats how our country was designed

 

You have a Supreme Court that has openly declared the sitting US president had immunity from committing crimes.

 

You have a Senate and House that is completely oblivious to the president taking in BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from foriegn entities directly into his pocket.    And they have completely surrendered their power to manage commerce and taxes to a president who imposes a different tariff policy on a daily basis.    Jesus, they cant even stand up to a crackhead in the CDC who is telling people vaccines and tylenol are toxic.

 

You have a president that publicly orders his DOJ to go after political opponents even when the DOJ lawyers say there is no evidence.    Same for members of the FED who he orders investigated for made up crimes.   Same for media companies, universities, and public companies.    

Where are the checks and balances from the Republican Senate to object.   I haveny seen any yet.

 

And now he wants FEDERAL armed forces to go and patrol our city streets.

 

 

I got news for you, NINES.   THis isnt normal.  You might think its hyberbole to call these actions Authoritarian.  

Its the exact playbook President Erdogan followed in Hungary (someone our President and MAGA think very highly of).    You are severely lost, my friend.          

 

Edited on Sep 28, 2025 5:57am

PJ...I've always said and thought Trump says too many things too loud and too self-serving; he has no off switch and he at times needs one. There's too much bluster and he has no respect for any kind of 'quiet'. Many of his actions in this term are obviously about retribution / revenge vs justice as I stated in an earlier post in this thread. I don't agree with some of the things he's done and will do nor the way he presents them. At the same time, there are some conservative principles / policies he adheres to that I've supported my entire life..be they right or wrong in your or anybody else's eyes. At my age, those tenets are not going to change .It's my business regardless of the degree of persecution doled out by you and your herdmates. 

 

  By all means... I didn't ask you to agree with me nor will I. Make your own choices and mistakes..it's the corny old  American way. Just don't dictate to me  how to live or whom / what to support or reject. I can promise you I'll do the same for you. When we disagree, which would be often,  I'd hope we both had enough sense to allow some tolerance for opposing views, which in the end is a damned sight more civil than use of sewer language and degradative name calling / labeling. Those actions just culminate in an endless hyperloop of chaos with no possibility for any kind of meaningful outcome. That happens specifically in here constantly; does that outcome ever get old / tiresome to you or do you thrive on it?

 

Checks and balances ? The courts..they've already curtailed a few of his actions. / attempts. And no, I don't need to be reminded that SCOTUS leans conservative for any cases that might end up there.

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Nothing on my list above is "bluster" or "saying things too loud".

 

There's really nothing to agree or disagree about when it comes to a sitting president taking BILLIONS of dollars from foreign entities and special interest groups directly into his pocket.    Thats empircally corruption in its purest and most flagrant form.   And hes not even embarrassed about it because he knows nobody in his caucus dares hold him accountable.     Any other president in history would be impeached by now just for that one thing.    Nevermind everything else.   Where's all the Hunter Biden money crusaders?

 

Checks and balances only apply to the extent the other branches are willing to engage.    The Scotus and Congress are both sitting back with their arms folded in the context of all the things I listed.   How many lines does he have to cross before anyone does something? 

 

 Im glad you have faith that Ted Cruz is really going to bring the hammer down when Trump goes too far.    Forgive me if I think thats naive.

 

 

Edited on Sep 28, 2025 9:09am
Originally posted by: Nines

Kevin...You pitiful, miserable human. Look at the left -leaning news sources I already mentioned originally (CNN, BBC, NY Times , Bloomberg, et al) as those reporting these  incidents. Fox News reported it as well albeit from a skewed perspective, but multiple sources from your side broadcasted it all. There was a damned sight more violent involvement than sign holding as you claimed. You'll find that the Portland PD actually referred to some of the incursions as 'riots'. The local law enforcement  did that labeling. Look it up, Miss Queen of Denial.

 

And watch your mouth around me and all the other ladies in here..it's the epitome of tactless and classless  behavior. I'm the last person on earth worthy of sainthood but you often think nasty language makes you appear as a hip, manly man of the world or that it presents you as a thoughtful , in-control and stable Mensa member? Or that it reduces your opposition in here to some fictitious subpar status by its use..even though that's your intent? It doesn't and you simply need to put a sock in that mouth of yours on occasion. It represents one of the weakest forms of debate / argument. With all your supposed education and multiple worldwide job experiences, you should already be aware of that. But, you won't. Just toss those words at somebody else down on your level, please. 


You're MAGA, Nines. That's the worst thing I could possibly say about anyone.

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