Paying the bills is not a concern for ignorant liberals. Being ignorant is their one common trait.
Paying the bills is not a concern for ignorant liberals. Being ignorant is their one common trait.
Originally posted by: tom
In Europe by the time you get done with income taxes & VATS the tax rate is over 50%
My Ireland guide told me last year, he needed a procedure & the surgeon told him it was a 3 month wait. He told the surgeon he had private insurance. He got in a week later
Amazing how the liberals after blowing thru $10 trillion now complain about deficits.
A higher % of Democrats voted for the last budget than Republicans
I am not a real big believer in anecdotal evidence. I saw a study not too long ago that showed middle-class Canadians typically pay less in taxes than middle-class Americans.
Originally posted by: tom
How will mark’s new idol pay for guaranteed federal jobs, Medicare for all & guaranteed housing?
How can we have Medicare for all, when the present Medicare is already trillions in the hole?
As I said in another recent post it is a matter of priorities. For me personally, I'd cut the defense budget in half. I'd raise income taxes back to what they were under the great tax cutter Ronald Reagan. I'd add a finical transaction tax as touted by Bernie Sanders. Universal single payer would cost the government less than it pays for our current system study after study shows, so that would actually add to my pot to spend on other things.
As always the liberals reflex is to cut defense, which is in in the constitution as compared to free health care, which isn't. By cutting defense by half we will no longer be able to maintain a 2 ocean navy with enough carrier fleets. Divisions will be reduced as well as training while the Russians & Chinese ramp theirs up.
A significant tax increase would result it in a recession as the consumer will have less money to spend.
I would love to see what a finical transaction tax is.
Theories say universal health is cheaper, but obamacare was supposed to cost less also. Real life examples such as Medicare & the VA disprove it. The VA is an administrative disaster, with long waiting times. Medicare is bankrupt, but Mark wants more of it.
As usual, Mark is wrong on all accounts.
Tom said, "As always the liberals reflex is to cut defense, which is in in the constitution as compared to free health care, which isn't."
The Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Article 1 Section 8:
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Damn those no good commies! Can you believe they mentioned Welfare twice in the Constitution?
Tom said, "Theories say universal health is cheaper, but obamacare was supposed to cost less also. Real life examples such as Medicare & the VA disprove it. The VA is an administrative disaster, with long waiting times. Medicare is bankrupt, but Mark wants more of it."
Obamacare does cost the government less than what we had before but it cost more than a full-blown single payer with universal coverage. Those aren't just theories that is what the CBO says. One of the big reasons Republicans had such a difficult time repealing and replacing Obamacare was that what they were purposing to replace it with cost a lot more than Obamacare even though it covered far fewer people.
Tom said, "I would love to see what a finical transaction tax is."
The typo is the result of me dictating a reply on my phone rather than typing on my computer. It is a financial transaction tax. We had one in this country up until 1966. A lot of first world countries have them. Generally, the way they work around the world is by imposing a small tax every time you buy or sell a stock or bond. I think the Sanders proposal called for a .5% (half a percent) tax upon the sale of stock.
The "welfare" mentioned in the constitution is not the "welfare" we have today. Two totally different definitions of the same word. You should be ashamed - and have to write 500 times on the blackboard " I am a liar and twist the meaning of words to make them fit my ignorant liberal agenda".
I see that Doc is trying out his contortionist act again. Back then general welfare meant to promote the health and general well-being of the population. Healthcare, food stamps, jobs programs, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security would all fall under promoting the general welfare.
If the definition were as you say, then providing for the common defense would limit the government to providing flintlock rifles and bayonets to the Army and wooden ships to the Navy because in 1789 that is what providing for the common defense meant. Doc, I will leave to you to call the Air Force and let them know they have to shut down because the founding fathers couldn't fathom flying machines or their use in the defense of the government back when they wrote the Constitution.
Still twisting reality - make it up as you go...
Originally posted by: Mark
Tom said, "As always the liberals reflex is to cut defense, which is in in the constitution as compared to free health care, which isn't."
The Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Article 1 Section 8:
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Damn those no good commies! Can you believe they mentioned Welfare twice in the Constitution?
Tom said, "Theories say universal health is cheaper, but obamacare was supposed to cost less also. Real life examples such as Medicare & the VA disprove it. The VA is an administrative disaster, with long waiting times. Medicare is bankrupt, but Mark wants more of it."
Obamacare does cost the government less than what we had before but it cost more than a full-blown single payer with universal coverage. Those aren't just theories that is what the CBO says. One of the big reasons Republicans had such a difficult time repealing and replacing Obamacare was that what they were purposing to replace it with cost a lot more than Obamacare even though it covered far fewer people.
Tom said, "I would love to see what a finical transaction tax is."
The typo is the result of me dictating a reply on my phone rather than typing on my computer. It is a financial transaction tax. We had one in this country up until 1966. A lot of first world countries have them. Generally, the way they work around the world is by imposing a small tax every time you buy or sell a stock or bond. I think the Sanders proposal called for a .5% (half a percent) tax upon the sale of stock.
Childhood memory. I still sing some of the tunes when remembering...the preamble being one of 'em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHp7sMqPL0g
