Originally posted by: Edso
Good luck to the team!
Thanks.
Originally posted by: Edso
Good luck to the team!
Thanks.
Then there's this....https://www.indystar.com/story/news/education/2015/05/28/bangert-awkward-education-reform-called-out-at-purdue/28057673/
I find it interesting that Matt had to go back 9 years to find a negative Mitch Daniels related article about the tiny education school at Purdue shrinking. I graduated from Purdue 42 years ago, and have never met or even heard about Purdue's education department. I guess it's there, but it's tiny.
If should be noted that since Mitch Daniels took over Purdue in 2013, the degrees are more valuable, the cost is slightly cheaper (and 30% cheaper in inflation adjusted dollars). During this time, because of the increased value that Mitch Daniels has created for students, the main campus enrollment has increased from 39,250 to 52,200 (a 32% increase). Statewide campuses have enjoyed very similar increased value and increased attendance. In 2012, it cost University of Illinois and Purdue in-state students $23,000 to attend each school. It currently costs $22,500 ($500 less than in 2012) to attend Purdue while Illinois now costs a whopping $38,500 (a 67% increase).
This just explains the difference between the fiscal responsability at Purdue the past dozen years, and fiscal irresponsability at virtually every other college across America.
I actually voted for Mitch Daniels for his second term as governor.... (And I lived to regret it).
But Boilerman should be interested to note that while Mitch Daniels was governor he appointed the enitre Purdue Board of Administration to their position. THose would be the incompetant "liberals" Boilerman is referring to that managed the finances of that university. Its also why his appointment to president there was somewhat controversial. The people he appointed to their positons then appointed him to his.
Nice how that worked out.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Oh, and my Purdue friends who got masters from UC Irvine, UC Santa Barbara, and another from USC would disagree with the Liberal assessment of the quality of education at these schools
Points for wokeness doesn't teach a thing.
II don't disagree that Purdue University is a quality university. I had a friend go there and major in engineering. Daniels has done a good job of keeping in-state students below 50% and taking advantage of recruiting out-of-state students who aren't subsidized. I applaud him for that. It's interesting that you would consider USC to have a low quality of education. Ranking of USC #34. Ranking of Purdue #101. Acceptance rate USC 12%. Purdue 53%. Avg SAT score USC 1391. Purdue 1231. Graduation rate USC 90%. Purdue 68%. Median earnings after 10 years USC $85,500. Purdue $61,200. You have probably determined that I graduated from USC. We have 9 degrees in the family from the university. Maybe your friend who went there would have been more comfortable at SMU, TCU, Liberty Univ, or Hillsdale College. Good luck in baseball. With USC and UCLA joining the conference, there will be far more competition in a number of sports.
I didn't say USC is a low ranking school. I did say that Liberals who rank colleges put a great amount of weight towards wokeness. In other words, if you don't love ISIS, you get punted down the list.
I did say that half dozen of my Purdue friends have told me how their USC, UCLA, California Berkely, Cal Irvine MBA curiculums were easy compared to their Purdue undergraduate degrees.
By the way, Daniels did not raise the cost of tuition/rooom and board for out of state students nearly as much as 99% of the balance of US colleges. You're premise is incorrect. A $52,000 job in Indianapolis buys the same LA lifestyle as one making $82,000.
Median income can be explained by Purdue students ending up in low cost of living Indiana and surrounding states, and USC students living in California. The Purdue students have far nice houses.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
I actually voted for Mitch Daniels for his second term as governor.... (And I lived to regret it).
But Boilerman should be interested to note that while Mitch Daniels was governor he appointed the enitre Purdue Board of Administration to their position. THose would be the incompetant "liberals" Boilerman is referring to that managed the finances of that university. Its also why his appointment to president there was somewhat controversial. The people he appointed to their positons then appointed him to his.
Nice how that worked out.
What did Daniels do during his second term that PJ disliked.
We all have a right to have our own opinion. I complimented him on having so many out-of-state students who save the state tax payers money by not being subsidized. I applaude Daniels for increasing the number of total students. It does have a positive effect on university revenue to help pay costs. None of my statements had anything negative about him. I did a comparison of the schools. As reported by the USC alumni association, 70% of USC grads still live in CA with half living in Orange and Los Angeles counties. I can't compare houses because I've never been to Indiana. I checked the Purdue alumni association website and it doesn't report the percent of grads still living in Indiana. Why not? However, the Indiana Chamber of Commerce did publish a report on the brain drain in Indiana. It states that 5 years after graduation, only 44.5% of college grads still live in Indiana. I conclude that your explanation on median income is flawed if you can't show that the outflow of Purdue grads is different that the state as a whole. As an opinion piece in the Indy Star stated, young professionals are leaving the state because of poor primary schools, pollution, and draconian social policies. It could be due to an opportunity deficit. The family of medical professionals who I know left the state because of these policies. Thanks for the discussion. Take care.
Originally posted by: Robert Davis
We all have a right to have our own opinion. I complimented him on having so many out-of-state students who save the state tax payers money by not being subsidized. I applaude Daniels for increasing the number of total students. It does have a positive effect on university revenue to help pay costs. None of my statements had anything negative about him. I did a comparison of the schools. As reported by the USC alumni association, 70% of USC grads still live in CA with half living in Orange and Los Angeles counties. I can't compare houses because I've never been to Indiana. I checked the Purdue alumni association website and it doesn't report the percent of grads still living in Indiana. Why not? However, the Indiana Chamber of Commerce did publish a report on the brain drain in Indiana. It states that 5 years after graduation, only 44.5% of college grads still live in Indiana. I conclude that your explanation on median income is flawed if you can't show that the outflow of Purdue grads is different that the state as a whole. As an opinion piece in the Indy Star stated, young professionals are leaving the state because of poor primary schools, pollution, and draconian social policies. It could be due to an opportunity deficit. The family of medical professionals who I know left the state because of these policies. Thanks for the discussion. Take care.
Robert, I suggest that you look at reality. How many articles about people fleeing Florida have you readl...I'm guessing it's about 100. After you do this, please tell me about Florida population by year. Never trust a Lyin' Liberal writer to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Purdue is becoming more prolific because of value that not one Liberal college provides. Look at the data, instead of the NY Times articles.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Robert, I suggest that you look at reality. How many articles about people fleeing Florida have you readl...I'm guessing it's about 100. After you do this, please tell me about Florida population by year. Never trust a Lyin' Liberal writer to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Purdue is becoming more prolific because of value that not one Liberal college provides. Look at the data, instead of the NY Times articles.
First of all, I'm a registered Republican. Because you don't have a response to why college grads in Indiana are leaving the state, you had to deflect to Florida? This conversation had nothing to do with Florida. I never cited an NY Times articles in my response. I'm not paying to access them. I did cite the data about college grads leaving Indiana from the Indiana Chamber of Commerce. The university comparison was from the website CollegeSimply using U.S. Department of Education National Center for Education Statistics. You have the right to belief what your want.