Read It And Weep Davy Boy

The list of 10 points, published by Iranianstate media, include a number of conditions the US has rejected in the past. The plan requires:

• The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions on Iran.

• Continued Iranian control over the strait of Hormuz.

• US military withdrawal from the Middle East.

• An end to attacks on Iran and its allies.

• The release of frozen Iranian assets.

• A UN security council resolution making any deal binding.

In the version released in Farsi, Iran also included the phrase “acceptance of enrichment” for its nuclear program. But for reasons that remain unclear, that phrase was missing in English versions shared by Iranian diplomats to journalists

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-plan-ceasefire-donald-trump-us

What goals did we accomplish with this war other than killing schoolgirls and wasting lots of money?

How much extra have we all paid for gas? It has to be tens of billions. And that money went straight into the pockets of Big Oil--without any added expenses on their part.

I'm more and more suspicious that the fossil fuel companies paid Trump to start this war. They've made out like bandits.

Since the Fucking Turd will never agree to this plan, the war isn't over. For what it's worth, we shouldn't give them authority/control over the Strait, which is international waters beyond the three-mile limit; and it's 22 miles wide. That may be a bargaining chip--not with the Orange Pig, but with the UN and/or a coalition of nations with vested interests in the region.

If they want to enrich uranium, they have the right to. We enrich it and use it to create weapons of mass destruction. We don't have the right to tell another nation that they can't do the exact same thing.

Trump wants them to control it as he just said we (he really means me) will get a cut of the tolls and this is the actual cease-fire Trump agreed to. It really was a complete surrender and it showers Iran with money from: seized assets, the ability to sell oil sanction free and the ability to collect tolls from ships passing through the strait.

When you look at the terms there is no way to see this other than we lost the war and have agreed to their terms in exchange for our surrender.

We went, according to conservatives, to keep them from getting nuclear weapons now we are going let them to produce the materials needed to make them. This is a bigger humiliation than when we withdraw from Vietnam.

Strait of Hormuz is not international waters. Current international law is 12 miles, not 3. Iran is on one side of the street and Oman, UAE, etc are on the other side. 

22 mi is at its widest point there are many points much narrower. 

Under the UNCLOS it is considered an international shipping straight and traffic is supposed to be allowed safe passage. However Iran is not a member of that treaty. 

I agree with you that Iran should not have full control of the Strait. 

My prediction is a toll system will develop and all the countries that border the street will split the revenue.

The 12 mile limit doesn't apply when it spans more than half of the waterway. Otherwise, Turkey could control the Bosphorous, Spain, Britain, and Morocco the Gibraltar Strait, etc. it's true that the UNCLOS agreement supersedes any such considerations. Rather than impose a toll, which would drive up the cost of everything that comes through Hormuz, Iran should be incentivized to sign the treaty. They would probably do that in return for some kids be of security guarantee.

Given our current horrible relations with, well, everybody, I can see a coalition of Gulf and European states pledging to fend off any attacks on Iran by fat old insane orange pedos. The Turd wanted American isolationism. Well, woo hoo, he's got it. Putin must be dancing right now.

I don't think a toll would be right, as the Strait is international waters. How much would it be? Well, the Panama Canal charges $250,000, if memory serves  So if a tanker holds, say, five million gallons of crude (and I have no idea what it actually is), that would increase the price of oil by $2.75 a barrel. That ain't nothing. It's not as if the nations that border the Strait are poor.