RFK's idiocy: Widespread sickness and death on the horizon

The list of federally recommended children's vaccines has been reduced from 17 to 11. While states, not the feds, mandate vaccination policy, what the CDC recommends has a massive influence on state policies.

Might be a silver lining, though. Since red goober states are more likely to listen to RFK's conspiracy theories, more kids there will die and not grow up to be MAGAs. I feel kind of sorry for the little guys and girls, but in the thousand or so threads David Miller has started re Trump's war on Venezuela, he and his Sink cohorts have stridently claimed over and over that the end justifies the means. So I feel OK about the deaths of tens of thousands of MAGA children if that ultimately saves America from fascism, which would result in tens of MILLIONS  of deaths.

Don't take off your tinfoil hats, MAGAs!

So in short you have decided to out terrorize the terrorists? Double down on tyranny? I would respectfully recommend you reevaluate the wiseness of such a tactic. Don't let people reach up and pull you down to their level. 

I respectfully suggest that our government and quite possibly our society are irrevocably broken and the only possible action we can take at this point is to make sure that they (MAGA) die, and not us.

Would it be better if we somehow stopped RFKJ and nobody died of diseases he helped to spread? Of course. BUT WE CAN'T STOP THAT OR ANY OF THE MYRIAD HORRIBLE THINGS THAT THE TURD HAS CAUSED AND WILL CAUSE.

We had to choose between fighting the Civil War and letting the US be destroyed. We had to choose between fighting the Axis and letting the world burn. Yeah, violence sometimes IS the answer. Our only remaining option is to make sure it's properly directed.

Let me ask you this, which I only wish was purely a hypothetical: the CDC estimates that the six vaccinations that RFKJ wants to prohibit (and you can be damn sure it will be more than just a recommendation) save 6,500 children's lives a year. Which would be the lesser evil, somebody blowing that nutjob's head off, with possibly some collateral damage, or the deaths of 6,500 children?

I realize that you would say that those aren't the only two alternatives. But is that true? Can we stop him by writing letters to the editor and making indignant posts on social media and marching in the streets until Trump's goons gun us down?

I believe that we are now genuinely at war and our survival is at stake. America vs. fascism yet again, and right now, we're losing. Badly.

And I respect your statement that we don't want to lower ourselves to their level. But do you really think that we can defeat the profound evil of Trump and MAGA by reasoning with them? Or by deploying our holy system of checks and balances, which IS NOT WORKING AT ALL? NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT?

Historically, the longer it took for people to realize that tyranny can only be defeated with force--not sweet reason or proud platitudes or waving the Sacred Law in everyone's faces--the longer it took to win. Sometimes, you just have to punch a bully in the face.

My comments are above and blue. 

For the record I presume or at least hope, that your implied  advocation of child genocide was mostly hyperbolic. I still felt compelled to point out the flaw in such tactics. 

I'm deeply offended that you accuse me of advocating for genocide. Allow me to correct you.

First of all, genocide is deliberate murder of large numbers of people based on some characteristic they share: race, religion, nationality, etc.  I said nothing in support of that. NOTHING.

But maybe I should rephrase my argument, since it obviously didn't sink in.

1. RFKJ's policies, if enacted, would result in the deaths of thousands of children. All those deaths would be preventable.

2. Normally, a harmful government policy can be successfully challenged in court. But MAGA dominates the judiciary.

3. If vaccine policies remain the purview of the states--and there's no guarantee of that--red states are far more likely to obey RFKJ/Trump's "recommendations."

4. Therefore, their anti-vax idiocy will kill more red state children than blue state children, per capita.

5. Trump and RFKJ can do this horrible thing because MAGA said they could. 

6. Therefore, if children are going to die--and they will-- it would be more just and fitting if they were the children of MAGAs. In an indirect but nonetheless very real way, MAGAs will have killed their own children. Obviously it's unjust for the kids, but if vaccines are abolished, kids will die.

7. In the long run, there will be fewer MAGAs. Then we might be able to have real medicine again, not the deranged ramblings of some addled conspiracy theorist.

I call this a silver lining because children dying when they don't have to is horrible. I would of course prefer that every child received the best medical care. But if RFKJ can't be stopped...let those who welcome him and the Turd with open arms be the ones who see their children get sick.

My view is that if innocent children are going to die because of the actions of evil and stupid men, it would be slightly more just if the ones who die are the children of those who put such men in power.

It will obviously be horrible no matter what. But when the MAGA parent takes her child to the hospital and is wondering whether he will live or die, and the doctor asks, "Why wasn't he vaccinated?" ...maybe she'll admit that it was because RFKJ, loyal Trump servant, told her not to? Nothing will change political affiliation more quickly--howevet belatedly--than realizing that your obedience to your party may have killed your child.

I suppose I was hinting at children being wiped out because of the political affiliation of their parents. 

The word choice was admittedly a bit hyperbolic. In hindsight it was inappropriate, unproductive, and probably shouldn't have been used. For that I apologize. 

In my scenario, children die because of their parents' political affiliation, yes. They aren't "wiped out"; no one deliberately kills them. Rather, their deaths are an unfortunate consequence of how their parents vote and which party they support.

It's no different than the prosaic lowered life expectancy of children of parents who vote against medical care, adequate housing, sufficient food, clean air and water, etc. People who vote MAGA are voting for death.