The Robert Hur Report and Tapes Verify That Biden Was and Is Mentally Impaired

Originally posted by: tom

kevin isn't going anywhere.

 

The biggest issue with the biden scandal is the question who was running the country?  Was it jill?  Was it the cabinet secretaries acting on their own?  Was it the inner circle?  Who controlled the autopen?  Can it be proved that biden actually used the autopen?  If it can't be proven that biden used the autopen are all those documents invalidated?

 

An example

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bidr-insisted-he-didn-t-sign-executive-order-just-weeks-after-doing-so-speaker-johnson-reveals/ar-AA1xrf0n?ocid=BingNewsVerp


         The obvious answer, like Joe Biden, is a no-brainer --- it certainly wasn't Joe Biden. That leaves the rest of the corrupt Biden's slumming in the White House - Jill and Hunter - PLUS the inner circle of corrupt advisors. 

Originally posted by: Nines

The great grand majority of your own party members / pundits / news lackey

 soothers now acknowledge Biden's frailties, and most of them acknowledge the cloak they tossed around him to disguise the facts. A few of the most stringent of those who defended his health status at the time and the disguising of it are now attemping to profit from it by publishing books outlining how bad they screwed up ( eg Jake Tapper). Why not just admit  that huge mistakes were made and move on ; it'd be easier in the end ? Why is that honest approach so difficult for you? And please, don't defend this Biden health / coverup situation with anything that conservatives contrived regarding the situation. That approach, though typical here,   just extends the lying, falsities,  and fallout aftermath. Sure, give the conservatives time..they make their own messes as well. Human natural selection has always included behavioral mistakes..unavoidable.

 

If it has downy feathers, quacks and waddles , it's likely a duck; anyone who observed Biden's condition as evidenced on multiple 

video scenarios doesn't require a synopsis of his medical records to make reasonable judgements about his fitness status. One didn't need an MD credential to analyze his general frailty; the people around him, particularly his wife, blatantly mishandled this entire situation and compounded his suffering by extending the pigtrail as they did. Many are now publicly regretting the approaches they took at the time. Hey, we all screw up and it's too easy to cast that initial stone. This news story is now old news, but I suspect that it will continue to be a major hurdle for your political party to overcome in ensuing elections. We'll see.

 

And I'm exceedingly and sincerely sorry / empathetic that Biden has been disgnosed with prostate cancer and hope his sufferage is as tolerable as it can be. Any of us old male farts could be in these shoes ( prostate troubles). Nothing but good wishes for him and his family regarding this health outcome.


Or you could just double down on "stupid" like Kevin is choosing to.  

Being MAGA doesn't make you clowns medical experts. Sorry, but it doesn't.

Nines, why lie to us? You're dancing and flapping your arms in joy at Biden's Illness. Not only do you get to relish his suffering, you have a brand new conspiracy theory to roll around in like a buffalo wallow. Embrace it!


@ Kevin...You're hopelessly  and ridiculously in denial regarding this issue; you appear foolish, in fact...and further, find somebody else to accuse of enjoying Biden's condition. Nobody claimed medical expertise, which isn't required here..simple observation and common sense apply regarding Biden's frailties.

Edited on May 24, 2025 9:45pm

I do not understand how any reasonable person can argue for hiding Biden's condition and basically lying to everyone about his fitness and potential for serving a second term. The Democrats ran someone who was highly unlikely to fulfill a second terms. He clearly was struggling and deficient the tale end of his first term.

 

Doctors are not coming out of the woodwork to argue that this was a sudden-onset condition. Nobody. The line "you are not a doctor" is a red herring. There aren't any doctors arguing that Biden was fit and that this was a recent event that wasn't hidden from public consumption.

 

If you love Joe Biden and think he was the best president in history, none of that changes the two paragraphs above. 

 

Why or how can someone support an overarching lie, a complete manipulation of the public in service of A, B, or C? This is Soviet style propaganda. Lies about Covid origins and vaccine effect (after the first three incarnations of Covid) were, in my opinion, worse propaganda. The whole laptop schtick was trivial lying, except it was in service of actually winning an election, which elevates it. 

 

I spent decades never thinking the Democratic Party would devolve into this. But here we are.

 

When I type here, it's always with the question hanging in the air, "Will I look like an idiot to my descendants a hundred years from now if they read it?" I don't see how anyone can come to a conclusion other than that the Democratic Party was all-in with a bullshit narrative many times in the last five years, and those narratives not only were false and they had a good understanding that they were false, but they insulted the intelligence of the average American again and again.

 

I was never rooting for the Democratic Party to be revealed for what it currently it. Never. It sickens me to acknowledge it, but I'd have to be deranged to ignore reality.

Edited on May 25, 2025 12:40am
Originally posted by: Nines

@ Kevin...You're hopelessly  and ridiculously in denial regarding this issue; you appear foolish, in fact...and further, find somebody else to accuse of enjoying Biden's condition. Nobody claimed medical expertise, which isn't required here..simple observation and common sense apply regarding Biden's frailties.


Nope. Sorry. "Simple observation" does NOT enable or entitle someone to evaluate another person's medical/mental condition--especially if that observation is limited to network news snippets! And as far as "common sense" is concerned...yeah, well, I guess we don't need doctors!!! We can evaluate patients with "common sense"!!! Jesus FUCK, Nines!

 

I can only draw the conclusion that you and all the other MAGAs yeeping and yeeping and yeeping about Biden's mental condition are doing so because you enjoy it--otherwise, why would you be repeatedly flogging it months after Biden left office? Sorry, Nines, my simple observation and common sense tell me you're lying. Object? Didn't you just tell us that simple observation and common sense can discern anything,?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Nope. Sorry. "Simple observation" does NOT enable or entitle someone to evaluate another person's medical/mental condition--especially if that observation is limited to network news snippets! And as far as "common sense" is concerned...yeah, well, I guess we don't need doctors!!! We can evaluate patients with "common sense"!!! Jesus FUCK, Nines!

 

I can only draw the conclusion that you and all the other MAGAs yeeping and yeeping and yeeping about Biden's mental condition are doing so because you enjoy it--otherwise, why would you be repeatedly flogging it months after Biden left office? Sorry, Nines, my simple observation and common sense tell me you're lying. Object? Didn't you just tell us that simple observation and common sense can discern anything,?


       The irony - Lewis talking about "common sense" - you just can't make this up....

Originally posted by: Robert Dietz

I do not understand how any reasonable person can argue for hiding Biden's condition and basically lying to everyone about his fitness and potential for serving a second term. The Democrats ran someone who was highly unlikely to fulfill a second terms. He clearly was struggling and deficient the tale end of his first term.

 

Doctors are not coming out of the woodwork to argue that this was a sudden-onset condition. Nobody. The line "you are not a doctor" is a red herring. There aren't any doctors arguing that Biden was fit and that this was a recent event that wasn't hidden from public consumption.

 

If you love Joe Biden and think he was the best president in history, none of that changes the two paragraphs above. 

 

Why or how can someone support an overarching lie, a complete manipulation of the public in service of A, B, or C? This is Soviet style propaganda. Lies about Covid origins and vaccine effect (after the first three incarnations of Covid) were, in my opinion, worse propaganda. The whole laptop schtick was trivial lying, except it was in service of actually winning an election, which elevates it. 

 

I spent decades never thinking the Democratic Party would devolve into this. But here we are.

 

When I type here, it's always with the question hanging in the air, "Will I look like an idiot to my descendants a hundred years from now if they read it?" I don't see how anyone can come to a conclusion other than that the Democratic Party was all-in with a bullshit narrative many times in the last five years, and those narratives not only were false and they had a good understanding that they were false, but they insulted the intelligence of the average American again and again.

 

I was never rooting for the Democratic Party to be revealed for what it currently it. Never. It sickens me to acknowledge it, but I'd have to be deranged to ignore reality.


Dude...you look like an idiot right now, bleating your vaccine conspiracy theories. But as far as Biden's condition is concerned, all you folks have gone through a fallacious mental exercise, not that you're honest enough to admit it:

 

1. Gee, Biden just stuttered--and I saw him stumble on steps the other day. He must be disintegrating!

 

2. His staff didn't make any announcements that agree with my infallible expert evaluation.

 

3. It's all a giant cover-up and CONSPIRACY!!!!

 

The reality is that he is now and was then an old man. We ALL make verbal and physical gaffes and stumbles. Old people make them more often. But let me ask you a simple, objective question: does that in and of itself connote unfitness for office?

 

If your answer is ANYTHING but "I don't know," you're wrong. BECAUSE: the 25th Amendment doesn't define fitness for office.

 

Period.

 

Lacking an objective, agreed-upon evaluation method, the White House didn't deliver a verdict. And if such a method had existed, Trump should have been subjected to it as well.

 

I'm sorry, but I doubt that you'd be happy if someone evaluated YOUR mental and physical condition by following you around constantly, recording every time you misspoke or stumbled, and playing it all back as some kind of highlight reel.

 

And I know the popular wisdom disagrees with me. Like the sun revolving around the earth. That was "common sense and simple observation," too.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Dude...you look like an idiot right now, bleating your vaccine conspiracy theories. But as far as Biden's condition is concerned, all you folks have gone through a fallacious mental exercise, not that you're honest enough to admit it:

 

1. Gee, Biden just stuttered--and I saw him stumble on steps the other day. He must be disintegrating!

 

2. His staff didn't make any announcements that agree with my infallible expert evaluation.

 

3. It's all a giant cover-up and CONSPIRACY!!!!

 

The reality is that he is now and was then an old man. We ALL make verbal and physical gaffes and stumbles. Old people make them more often. But let me ask you a simple, objective question: does that in and of itself connote unfitness for office?

 

If your answer is ANYTHING but "I don't know," you're wrong. BECAUSE: the 25th Amendment doesn't define fitness for office.

 

Period.

 

Lacking an objective, agreed-upon evaluation method, the White House didn't deliver a verdict. And if such a method had existed, Trump should have been subjected to it as well.

 

I'm sorry, but I doubt that you'd be happy if someone evaluated YOUR mental and physical condition by following you around constantly, recording every time you misspoke or stumbled, and playing it all back as some kind of highlight reel.

 

And I know the popular wisdom disagrees with me. Like the sun revolving around the earth. That was "common sense and simple observation," too.


      Each time Lewis has resorted to a long winded filibuster about his past remarks, you know he was caught in another lie. When pressed and factually refuted, he then says "end of thread". 

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