The Ross Perot effect

DonDiego loathes Hillary because she is a woman. The nerve of the inferior sex trying to assume power! Much of the irrational hatred directed at her stems from that sense of outrage.

 

Hillary is absolutely correct in a broad sense. The Russians are going to interfere in the 2020 election. And their efforts will be directed toward making Trump the winner--as in 2016.

 

So while DonDiego does not feel the shame that he should, he should know that a vote for Trump is/was a vote for Russia. Russia wanted Trump to win and devoted massive efforts to make sure that would happen. Anybody who voted for Trump abetted those efforts. That is indeed shameful--and unpatriotic.

 

The reason why a third-party candidate would hurt Trump more than his eventual opponent is that millions of Republicans feel shame and disgust for having voted for Trump and need a place to run to. A Democratic third party candidate would be on the outer fringes and wouldn't have any real effect. But a Republican third-party candidate could easily siphon off millions of votes from Trump.

Instead of 'hating Hillary because she is a woman', perhaps some dislike Clinton because she is "the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long".  Yeah.  That's the ticket.

 

"Millions of Republicans that feel shame and disgust for having voted for Trump"  only exist in Kevin's deranged Trump Hating pea brain.  The reality is that once the Democrats nominate a far left candidate this year, we'll see the remaining moderate democrats abandon the democrat party and help re-elect President Trump.

Edited on Oct 19, 2019 8:14am

Somebody here is stuck on stupid and it certainly isn't Charles.....let me understand this Russia thing.  The far left Russians want to help elect a right of center Republican?  Not a leftist like the Russian leadership, but someone from the right?

LOL, a woman can be elected in the USA, just not a Clinton woman.  The only one who would utter the term "inferior sex" would be someone stuck on stupid.

Fritzie-poo doesn't understand that the Russian government is presently anything but "far left." It's actually far right, being run by a dictator and using extreme nationalism to sell its brand to the people. Y'know, like Trump. That's why Trump LUUUUUVVVS Putin--he's a role model.

 

And many, many of the comments uttered by our Trumpers over the last couple of years betray their misogyny (look it up, Trumpers). It's not just Hillary. The idea of ANY woman in power makes their heads explode.


Kevin Lewis writes: "DonDiego loathes Hillary because she is a woman."  

This is false.  DonDiego loathes both the Hillary and her husband because they are despicable human beings.  In this matter he thereby demonstrates that he is capable of loathing both men and women.

 

In his post of 12:27PM, Oct 18 2019,  poor old DonDiego presented a referenced write-up, published in Reason, as to how a third-candidate may well arise within the Democrat Party and harm the chances of The Hillary to achieve the Presidency.

The reader is free to agree or disagree with this opinion.

 

In his post of 10:37PM, Oct 18 2019, Kevin Lewis states without reference that  " . . . millions of Republicans feel shame and disgust for having voted for Trump, . . . (so) a Republican third-party candidate could easily siphon off millions of votes from Trump."  

 

DonDiego does not feel shame or disgust for casting his vote against The Hillary.  DonDiego is personally unaware of anyone who fells shame or disgust at having voted for President Trump.

 

DonDiego notes no reference suggesting available data that people, in fact, are likely to vote for an alternate "Republican third-party" candidate. 

[In fact, . . . wouldn't "Republican third-party candidate" be an oxymoron ?]  

I'm not worried about Tulsi Gabbard siphoning votes from Democrats as a 3rd party candidate. 

 

  I am worried that Russia is once again flooding our social media sites with propoganda to influence the election....while our president is rewarding them for their efforts by handing them comtrol of Syria, working to relieve their sanctions, encouraging the world to let them back into the G8, and holding back funds in the Ukraine used to hold the line on Russian aggression.

 

Thats how the White House rolls in the current environment.   And DonDiego and the rest of Trumps base have every right to be delighted by it.   

 

And thats why we have elections.   Be nice if we let the people instead of the Kremlin decide the next  one, wouldn't it?     I mean, unless you're on of these guys.  They think Hillary's email was a bigger deal than Russian surrender too

 

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A "referenced write-up" of a speculation that something might happen doesn't have any factual weight. I don't know about that "Reason" source, but it's very unlikely that a third-party candidate would emerge from the Democratic field and have any real impact.

 

"Republican third party candidate" would not be an oxymoron, because the guy would still be a Republican in origin and all but name--he'd call himself "The American Freedom Party" or something like that. But he'd still be a Republican--at least until Trump ordered him killed.

 

Since DonDiego has no rational reason for his white-hot hatred of Hillary, I am forced to conclude that the reason for that hatred is that she's an uppity woman. Believe me, I heard a LOT of criticism of her that was so illogical and unfounded, it must have been due to misogyny, Trump-love, or a combination of the two.

 

Full disclosure: I don't particularly like her, either, but she was the only sane option in 2016. At least she had some knowledge of how our government works. She also, as far as I'm aware, does not hate Muslims, Mexicans, black people, immigrants, Chinese people, or Puerto Ricans.

 

If I am wrong about millions of Republicans regretting that they voted for Trump, well, then, there is no hope for our country. But I don't think I'm wrong. You can even see it in the eyes-bugged-out spittle-flying deranged posts of our Trumpers here in this forum.

Edited on Oct 19, 2019 9:32pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I'm not worried about Tulsi Gabbard siphoning votes from Democrats as a 3rd party candidate. 

 

  I am worried that Russia is once again flooding our social media sites with propoganda to influence the election....while our president is rewarding them for their efforts by handing them comtrol of Syria, working to relieve their sanctions, encouraging the world to let them back into the G8, and holding back funds in the Ukraine used to hold the line on Russian aggression.

 

Thats how the White House rolls in the current environment.   And DonDiego and the rest of Trumps base have every right to be delighted by it.   

 

And thats why we have elections.   Be nice if we let the people instead of the Kremlin decide the next  one, wouldn't it?     I mean, unless you're on of these guys.  They think Hillary's email was a bigger deal than Russian surrender too

 

Image result for rather be russian than a democrat


The horrible thing is that those morons wearing the shirts don't realize how awful life in Russia would actually be. For one thing, they'd be dragged off to prison for wearing shirts with political statements on them--or they'd be "disappeared."

 

Thank God the Republican party is beginning to die out, as its members get older and older and are starting to croak. Younger people tend to affiliate with the Democratic party. That's because they want a better future for themselves and their children, and they don't think that enriching billionaires and sucking Putin's dick is the way to get there.

In his post of  9:25, 19 October Kevin Lewis explains: "Since DonDiego has no rational reason for his white-hot hatred of Hillary, I am forced to conclude that the reason for that hatred is that she's an uppity woman."

 

DonDiego is saddened that Kevin Lewis is "forced" to jump to false/unsupported conclusions, . . . and especially so quickly.

DonDiego makes an effort to stick to rational conversation and not jump to unsupported and even unkind conclusions as to why those with whom he disagrees do so.

(DonDiego makes a conscious effort not to employ phrases like "Mr. Smith thinks 'blah-blah-blah' ".  He supposes everyone is capable of expressing his own opinion, thereby relieving poor old DonDiego of that burden.)

 

Rational analysis is superior to jumping to false conclusions.  Here is an example, . . . a piece addressing just some of The Hillary's faults written by someone who voted for her:   Hillary Should Apologize .

 

DonDiego opines there are lots more practicle rational reasons to oppose The Hillary, . . . extending all the way back to The Natural State.  Indeed, they may well be sufficient reasons to hate her.

DonDiego professes moral outrage at Hillary's supposed corruption--which has never been proved, and Fox News diatribes do not constitute such proof--while giving Donald Trump a free pass and even voting for him.

 

This is hypocrisy of the highest order. If you hate corruption, you should be appalled and disgusted by Trump's actions and shouldn't support him. Even if every single one of the accusations leveled at Hillary was true, that would pale in comparison to what Trump has done.

 

Unless it is DonDiego's contention that only Democrats can be corrupt. That would mean that his righteous indignation is, uh, biased.

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