Schumer threatens to kill funding deal if House Republicans attach elections bill requiring photo ID, citizenship proof

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Those other things are specifically authorized by The Constitution For The United States. That is why the government can enforce them. 

 

The feds don't "determine voting age" the Constitution does. 

 

Obviously unauthorized immigrants shouldn't be allowed to vote. Legal permanent residents should be able to vote. 

 

I do agree that a State should take steps to ensure that only legal residents and citizens vote. However, absent a Constitutional amendment this is a State issue. 

 

Even if I like what a law might do if it is not authorized by the Constitution then I will oppose it. 


Every election, TRILLIONS of FEELTHY ILLEGULS cast fraudulent ballots, which evil Democrats, cackling, count as votes for their party. 

 

These fraudulent voters sure do care about voting! In casting a fraudulent ballot, you're committing five separate felonies, and you have no expectation that the ballot will be verified and counted! Them Dems must be bribing them ILLEGULS handsomely!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Every election, TRILLIONS of FEELTHY ILLEGULS cast fraudulent ballots, which evil Democrats, cackling, count as votes for their party. 

 

These fraudulent voters sure do care about voting! In casting a fraudulent ballot, you're committing five separate felonies, and you have no expectation that the ballot will be verified and counted! Them Dems must be bribing them ILLEGULS handsomely!


Were you quoting my post kinda as a spring board to make other comments or did you somehow infer that I think that way? 

And if one legal vote is canceled by an illegal vote that is wrong also..If all these homeless people want to vote i am sure there are plenty of  programs out there to get them an ID and get them registered.  Hell that Id could get them on food stamps and all kinds of gov goodies..  Much more important than trying to vote if you are homeless.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Were you quoting my post kinda as a spring board to make other comments or did you somehow infer that I think that way? 


Obviously, the former.

 

The evil MAGA push to strip away the states' power to regulate their own elections was born out of their signature "issue"-- scapegoating and demonizing immigrants, plus a healthy dose of "We lost, cheaters cheaters cheaters" conspiracy theories.

 

Sometimes I don't make my thoughts processes 100% clear. You were citing the law and the Constitution, which no one should be entitled to subvert. Yet, the MAGA pigs are trying to do just that. And Tom evidently supports such a move. You schooled him quite effectively. I was mocking his and MAGA's recent excuse to turn the Constitution into toilet paper.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Obviously, the former.......

 

 


That's what I thought. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks for clarifying. 

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

And if one legal vote is canceled by an illegal vote that is wrong also..If all these homeless people want to vote i am sure there are plenty of  programs out there to get them an ID and get them registered.  Hell that Id could get them on food stamps and all kinds of gov goodies..  Much more important than trying to vote if you are homeless.


I don't think you're entitled to speak for them. They may want very much to be able to vote. You're assuming that because they're homeless, they're some kind of lesser human beings and not really citizens.

 

I don't know why you MAGAs keep dredging up your fantasy of all those supposed "illegal votes." They're extremely rare and almost always ultimately not counted. Why the hell would anyone risk felony prosecution to cast a fraudulent ballot?

 

AND...exactly how would your fantasy "illegal vote" even be counted, so that it "canceled out" a legal vote? Ballots are scrutinized and compared to signatures of registered voters on file. How would your evil fraudulent homeless person even get his ballot counted?

 

You are brain-soaked with another endemic MAGA fantasy, which is that the homeless live on Easy Street, kicking back and slurping up endless government largesse and handouts. Nothing could be further from the truth. At best, you might be able to feed yourself. No shelter, usually...poor medical care if at all, only the clothing on your back, constant danger...yeah, it's paradise, all right.

 

So why would such a person vote? Well, for one thing, as a resident of the city, he might want to vote on local issues--such as funding to help the homeless!!! Or he might actually care who the mayor or the governor or the President is.

Another factor in getting ID is that most states won't issue it unless you have an address. And if you're homeless, you pretty much by definition don't have one.

 

You might not be able to pay the fee to get an ID. You may not be able to prove that you reside in the jurisdiction that issues the ID. 

 

Most people think that  being homeless is a doddle (as the British say) because there are all those government and private agencies to help out. But they're always drastically overburdened and underfunded. For every one person who receives help, three people are turned away.

 

People also fail to understand how very, very difficult it can be to perform the simple functions of life that they take for granted. Try to dry yourself and your clothing when you get caught in the rain. Try to keep supplies of soap and toilet paper handy and safe. Try to find a place to sleep where you won't be assaulted and/or robbed. Try to find a place to take a shower ..or a shit. 

 

"it's easy to get ID." No, it's not. "Homeless people get all sorts of handouts and live better than most people." My ass, they do.

Edited on Feb 2, 2026 8:43pm

I would like to see States require one prove their Identity and citizenship/immigration status before registering to vote. I am also okay with requiring one to re-register every 5 - 10 years or so. 

 

I do think that it is reasonable to require ID for registration. However I think the government should eliminate the barriers to getting an ID. For example everyone should be entitled to a "free" State ID. Also everyone should be entitled to a "free" copy of their birth certificate. 

 

After all, if an ID card  is required to vote and an ID card costs money then we are basically charging money to vote. This would violate the 24th amendment. 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I would like to see States require one prove their Identity and citizenship/immigration status before registering to vote. I am also okay with requiring one to re-register every 5 - 10 years or so. 

 

I do think that it is reasonable to require ID for registration. However I think the government should eliminate the barriers to getting an ID. For example everyone should be entitled to a "free" State ID. Also everyone should be entitled to a "free" copy of their birth certificate. 

 

After all, if an ID card  is required to vote and an ID card costs money then we are basically charging money to vote. This would violate the 24th amendment. 

 

 

 

 

 


Sure. But the MAGA bleating is to require ID to VOTE. If you're registered, the proof of your identity as a voter is the signature on your ballot (and the possession thereof).

 

All the states do in fact require some kind of identification, proof that one resides in the state, and proof of citizenship to REGISTER. Once that's done, a signature is all that's needed, and all that should be needed.

 

This should not be up for debate at all.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Another factor in getting ID is that most states won't issue it unless you have an address. And if you're homeless, you pretty much by definition don't have one.

 

 


In Washington people are permitted to use the address of a shelter, church, or similar entity as a residential address for their ID. (With permission of course) The shelters and such will also hold mail for them. 

 

Not sure if other states have similar programs but I kind of presumed they did. 

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