Schumer threatens to kill funding deal if House Republicans attach elections bill requiring photo ID, citizenship proof

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Sure. But the MAGA bleating is to require ID to VOTE. If you're registered, the proof of your identity as a voter is the signature on your ballot (and the possession thereof).

 

All the states do in fact require some kind of identification, proof that one resides in the state, and proof of citizenship to REGISTER. Once that's done, a signature is all that's needed, and all that should be needed.

 

This should not be up for debate at all.


 

Yeah, but the MAGA bleating is rarely the main focus of my posts or my proposals.

 

I agree that once registered one should be able to vote and I am okay with their signature counting as their ID. 

 

When I registered to vote I did not have to prove anything. A volunteer handed me a postcard sized form. I filled it out and dropped it in the mailbox. I didn't have to show ID to anyone. I was legally a state resident but I still had my old state ID. 

 

I have no idea what kinds of records checks went on behind the scenes to prove I exist, but I know I didn't have to prove that I am who I say I am. 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

In Washington people are permitted to use the address of a shelter, church, or similar entity as a residential address for their ID. (With permission of course) The shelters and such will also hold mail for them. 

 

Not sure if other states have similar programs but I kind of presumed they did. 


Yes, Oregon has the same programs. One interesting wrinkle, unique to Oregon, I believe, is that you can actually get ID, including a driver's license, without having an address at all. The ID will just say "Oregon Resident" where the address would normally be. You do have to fill out a short form attesting that you spend the majority of your time in Oregon.

 

I've been told that being able to use a shelter, church, etc. as a de facto address and mailbox is actually not common at all, and is never allowed in--you guessed it--red states. The anti-homrless MAGA contingent feels that such policies encourage the homeless to infest their states.

Your signiture changes as you age.  So having an  Id would help prevent your vote from being thrown away.  With Kevin's idea everyone with parkinson  would have the vote tossed.  Voter ID is common sense,it is not a Maga issue it is a majority issue. Why should we let someone we don't know vote in our elections.

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

Your signiture changes as you age.  So having an  Id would help prevent your vote from being thrown away.  With Kevin's idea everyone with parkinson  would have the vote tossed.  Voter ID is common sense,it is not a Maga issue it is a majority issue. Why should we let someone we don't know vote in our elections.


Signatures  change over time but theoretically that could be remedied by requiring re-registration every 5 to 10 years. 


I think voter ID is a solution looking for a problem, but I'm for it. It's pretty simple: if the government requires a government ID to vote, then every eligible voter can get a government-issued ID at no cost.

 

Any other problems I can solve for you guys?

Edited on Feb 3, 2026 6:02am
Originally posted by: Brent Kline

Your signiture changes as you age.  So having an  Id would help prevent your vote from being thrown away.  With Kevin's idea everyone with parkinson  would have the vote tossed.  Voter ID is common sense,it is not a Maga issue it is a majority issue. Why should we let someone we don't know vote in our elections.


Our constitution is common sense. States run their own elections not the Federal Government. This is by design so the Federal Government when ran by a corrupt President, as we have now, cannot manipulate elections as our current president is trying to do. 

I'd question if you have any common sense because you are calling on people to accept something that is unconstitutional in the name of common sense.  If we don't follow the constitution, we no longer have a government. The law becomes whatever the political party that's in control of the government wants it to be at any given moment.  For years Republicans were pro second amendment and now suddenly when their goon squads start murdering and kidnapping people off the streets, they say no you can't bring a gun to protests. 

 

 In prior posts you mentioned your daughter enduring a harship because of her school eliminating early drop off and you also mentioned you rent your land to farmers as part of your income. Before you call for unconstitutional common sense, may employ some common sense in your own life and quit voting against you and your families' economic interests.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

I think voter ID is a solution looking for a problem, but I'm for it. It's pretty simple: if the government requires a government ID to vote, then every eligible voter can get a government-issued ID at no cost.

 

Any other problems I can solve for you guys?


Seems simple enough to me. And something I've been advocating for years. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Seems simple enough to me. And something I've been advocating for years. 


How do you legally implement it? Doesn't sound simple to me. And do you think Trump has proven himself trustworthy enough to not put his orange finger on the scale?

 

I note Trump called in to self confessed paid liar Dan Bongio's show and said he wants "Republicans" to run elections not the Federal Government. That is his intent laid bare for all to see. Yes, implement this illegal, common sense, simple enough scheme to make fascism permanent in the United States.

 

 

Implementing this on a federal level would be the end of our Democratic Republic. Of course individual states are

free to do exactly as you want or not. The only way the Feds could legally seize control of elections would be to pass a constitutional amendment.

 

 

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

Your signiture changes as you age.  So having an  Id would help prevent your vote from being thrown away.  With Kevin's idea everyone with parkinson  would have the vote tossed.  Voter ID is common sense,it is not a Maga issue it is a majority issue. Why should we let someone we don't know vote in our elections.


Nonsense. That's not how it works. Even someone who has developed Parkinson's will have a signature similar to what they had before. If there's doubt, the ballot is set aside for further examination--NOT "tossed." If the authenticity of the signature can't be determined, the voter is contacted. 

 

Signatures, not ID, are what validates ballots. And as to your pretty stupid final question ..why should "we" "know" every single person who votes? 

 

This is nothing but MAGA fascism 

Originally posted by: Mark

How do you legally implement it? Doesn't sound simple to me. And do you think Trump has proven himself trustworthy enough to not put his orange finger on the scale?

 

I note Trump called in to self confessed paid liar Dan Bongio's show and said he wants "Republicans" to run elections not the Federal Government. That is his intent laid bare for all to see. Yes, implement this illegal, common sense, simple enough scheme to make fascism permanent in the United States.

 

 

Implementing this on a federal level would be the end of our Democratic Republic. Of course individual states are

free to do exactly as you want or not. The only way the Feds could legally seize control of elections would be to pass a constitutional amendment.

 

 


If you have read my other posts in this thread you would see that I agree this is a state issue. 

 

My simple enough to me comment was in reference to providing free IDs to people. States can and should require ID to register to vote and can and should give those IDs for free. 

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