Sleepy's plan to add more fuel to the fire.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

No - the CRFB is a non-partisan group of both Republicans and Democrats whose sole  mission statement is to educate the public about the national debt and any legislation that impacts it.

 

Your sources are well known.   Hence the 80 Trillion dollar Green New Deal.

 

Thanks for stopping by.

 


If Pj could read more than 1 sentence without getting a headache he would see that all they did was take the Democrat numbers & add them up; no analysis. For example the $124b IRS number is made up with no basis in fact. 

If people want to lower their drug costs get a Medicare advantage drug plan for $46 per month. 

Stop the press !    80 Trillion dollar Tom is accussing someone of made up numbers?

 

The IRS has been gutted by the "defund the police" Trump administration and Paul Ryan's congress who dont like cops making tax cheats pay their taxes.   Their own estimation is they miss 600 billion in additional tax revenue this year alone due to not having enough staff to audit all of the flagged accounts.IRS missing 600 billion of owed tax revenue in 2022

 

Medicare advantage doesnt make insulin cheaper....it just makes your tax dollars pay for it instead of the customer  out of pocket.    You do understand that, right?    In additon to that the bill lowers the total out of pocket any senior pays for drugs including those on Medicare D

This plan includes 3 years of obamacare spending not the normal 10 years, so the plan is missing 7 years of spending.  Nobody is including the $280b Chips bill which does not have any revenue attached.  Factor in those 2 bills, plus the missing obamacare spending & the fake $124b in IRS collections, you have a huge increase in the deficit & at best flat inflation. 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

My god these Libererals are stupid.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-touts-economic-deal-godsend-185644520.html

 

We're drowning, so Biden tosses Americans an anchor.

 

 


So if we're drowning, who was Captain of the ship when it hit the iceberg?

 

Because we were doing pretty good until.....


Originally posted by: tom

This plan includes 3 years of obamacare spending not the normal 10 years, so the plan is missing 7 years of spending.  Nobody is including the $280b Chips bill which does not have any revenue attached.  Factor in those 2 bills, plus the missing obamacare spending & the fake $124b in IRS collections, you have a huge increase in the deficit & at best flat inflation. 


There's no need to argue.  At this point both you and the CRFB are issuing forecasts.   Time will tell which forecaster was more accurate.  IN the meantime people should conisder which forecaster has a better record at forecasting.  

 

Lets hope 80 trillion dollar Tom gets a little closer to the ballpark this time around.

Originally posted by: tom

This plan includes 3 years of obamacare spending not the normal 10 years, so the plan is missing 7 years of spending.  Nobody is including the $280b Chips bill which does not have any revenue attached.  Factor in those 2 bills, plus the missing obamacare spending & the fake $124b in IRS collections, you have a huge increase in the deficit & at best flat inflation. 


Sure, stupid Tommie-poo, you don't want to acknowledge the revenue enhancement that giving the IRS needed enforcement funding will provide, so you just call it "fake."

 

You argue like a coward. Stupid Tommie-poo.

It turns out that manchin is being bribed with a promise of a pipeline.  Note it is a promise that will probably disappear in the red tape.

 

revenue enhancement that giving the IRS needed enforcement funding will provide,

 

They will hire thousands of people to maybe get $124b.  There is no evidence of that the IRS will come anywhere near this number.  It is essentially a made up number.

 

At this point both you and the CRFB are issuing forecasts.

 

I am not forecasting anything.  I am using the analysis provided by respected organizations.  The CFRB merely added up the numbers in the bill without checking for accuracy.

 

The Wharton school, the Fed & the Committee for Responsible Taxation has reviewed the numbers and say schumer is full of crap.  Taxes go up, inflation at best is no effect, revenue is backloaded with a 10 year projection & costs have only a 3 year estimate.  If PJ & 3rd grade kevin want to believe it, so be it, but that is not the reality 

The Wharton School? Isn't that the place that was afraid to release tRumps grades?

Originally posted by: tom

It turns out that manchin is being bribed with a promise of a pipeline.  Note it is a promise that will probably disappear in the red tape.

 

revenue enhancement that giving the IRS needed enforcement funding will provide,

 

They will hire thousands of people to maybe get $124b.  There is no evidence of that the IRS will come anywhere near this number.  It is essentially a made up number.

 

At this point both you and the CRFB are issuing forecasts.

 

I am not forecasting anything.  I am using the analysis provided by respected organizations.  The CFRB merely added up the numbers in the bill without checking for accuracy.

 

The Wharton school, the Fed & the Committee for Responsible Taxation has reviewed the numbers and say schumer is full of crap.  Taxes go up, inflation at best is no effect, revenue is backloaded with a 10 year projection & costs have only a 3 year estimate.  If PJ & 3rd grade kevin want to believe it, so be it, but that is not the reality 


Well, stupid Tommie-poo, if disaster is coming, as your "respected" sources say, then you need to consider an exit strategy. I can still send you those assisted suicide links if you're interested.

 

The alternative will be that you wake up tomorrow and BIDEN IS STILL PRESIDENT. EEEEEEEEK!!!!

Originally posted by: Vegas Todd

So if we're drowning, who was Captain of the ship when it hit the iceberg?

 

Because we were doing pretty good until.....


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