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Originally posted by: tom

Fraud continues & spending was decreased in other areas. 


Fixed - "Fraud continues at a much lower rate with every dollar Obama investing in its crackdown returning $10 in recovery."

 

And the 'other areas' you speak of were payment reimbursements to the medical community - not to any participants in the program which is what is being offered by Republicans and the Medicare "vouchers" they advocate.

 

Feel free to give us another bullshit talking point and I can fix that with easily referenced facts too !

Tom is lying--Obama did not decrease Medicare funding or restrict access to the program. He addressed fraud and was effective in identifying and stopping it. Of course, there's still some fraud, but to say "fraud continues" is like observing a 90% reduction in crime rates and saying, "Well, crime continues, so we didn't accomplish anything."

 

Tom is immune to logic and reason--he just wants to believe whatever Fox News is feeding him that day.

 

Whatever Obama did or did not do, though, has nothing to do with what Trump is doing or plans to do. Our Trumpers love to use the "what about Obama" or "what about Hillary" argument, even when the comparison is nonsensical. Only Trump has starved the Treasury in order to give big money to his billionaire friends.

Obeyme and Hillary belong in prison for the destruction they have caused America with their lies and deeds.Anyone defending them is just as guilty. 

According to the CRFB obama reduced medicare spending by $216b. 

 

In 2015 $2.4 billion was recovered. Meanwhile james cosgrove of the GAO estimates fraud losses at about $60b. 

 

Kevin continues to ignore facts. 

 

Edited on Jan 24, 2020 9:56am

Originally posted by: tom

According to the CRFB obama reduced medicare spending by $216b. 

 

In 2015 $2.4 billion was recovered. Meanwhile james cosgrove of the GAO estimates fraud losses at about $60b. 

 

Kevin continues to ignore facts. 

 


Fixed !   - "According to the CRFB Obama reduced medicare costs by 216 b"

 

But I want to thank Tom for citing the source he routinely has called a liberal sham group when they scored the horrible budget impact of Republicans proposal to repeal Obamacare.

 

Tom's  source shows how Republicans want to raise the budget defict even more by implementing legislation that Tom passionately advocates.   

 

Originally posted by: tom

According to the CRFB obama reduced medicare spending by $216b. 

 

In 2015 $2.4 billion was recovered. Meanwhile james cosgrove of the GAO estimates fraud losses at about $60b. 

 

Kevin continues to ignore facts. 

 


 Tom, as he so often does, confuses two financial concepts. He's repeatedly shown that he doesn't know the difference between national debt and budget deficit.

 

Likewise, he doesn't understand the difference between spending and costs. Obama decreased Medicare spending--because he decreased Medicare costs by an equivalent amount.

 

The bottom line is that no one who was eligible for the program had their benefits reduced. Trump, in contrast, wants to cut EVERYONE'S benefits by 20% or more.

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