Someone's got to pay for the free shit

Originally posted by: Candy Wright

Surely, Kevin, you know that public school has never been "free."  Remember taxes?  What do you think pays for the building and books and utilities and lunch and teachers and the janitor, for starters?   Our parently paid them so to us it didn't mean anything when we were kids.   Now we pay them for everyone else.  Can anyone guess how much is paid in taxes for every kid who ever went to K-12 in our lifetimes?   Not to mention the roads and the rest of it. 


Boilerman calls everything other people get from the government "free shit" and everything he gets as, well...something else. Of course I realize that none of it is actually free. He seems not to.

 

Boilerman thinks that when someone gets a food stamp voucher, that person hasn't EVER paid into the system and is just a scumbag freeloader. In actuality, of course, we all pay into the system, and that includes anyone who is broke, unemployed, and living on food stamps--that person has paid taxes one way or another, all his life.

 

If you like, you can view social welfare as a type of insurance. Food stamps, disability, unemployment benefits, etc.--we all pay into the system so that we have a safety net if we need it. YES, a person getting benefits is AT THE MOMENT receiving more than he is paying in. That's how insurance works.

 

What twists Boilerman's panties--and those of orthodox conservatives--is that he's never had to use those resources (apparently) and thus, feels cheated because he had to pay taxes. In Boilerman World, a person is only entitled to the exact dollar amount in benefits of the taxes he's paid in in his lifetime. That's not the way it works--as with any insurance.

 

But aside from that, Boilerman ignores all the benefits he and his family have received for "free" over his lifetime. Yes, he pays taxes. But the value of what he's gotten from the government dwarfs that amount. He's just unwilling to acknowledge that simple truth.

 

 

Then this topic should be brought to an end. 

 

I hate the insurance concept.   Makes no sense, in a way.

 - Health insurance--I'm betting I'll get sick, the company is betting I won't. 

 - Life insurance--I'm betting I'll die (a pretty good bet at that), the company bets I will live.

 - Auto insurance, I'm betting I'll have an accident.  They bet I won't have an accident.

 - Uninsured motorist--I know many are out there driving without insurance.  Compant knows that too.

 

Sucker payments, but what are we (who were raised to be self-sufficient) to do?  

Kevin Lewis writes: "Yes, he [Boilerman] pays taxes. But the value of what he's gotten from the government dwarfs that amount."

 

Evidence, please.

A great deal of "free shit"  (thats such a catchy phrase!)  coems from the government subsidizing companies to fullfill basic needs for their employees.    We've had the debate on this forum for years about the "apocolyptic" impact of paying a $14 minimum wage.      But now that companies are moving in that direction (either voluntarily or by law) what we see is that companies are paying their employees enough to survive so Uncle Same does not have to.   In other words - its resulted in less "free shit".     Its just ironic the people who complain most about free shit are the ones that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to get rid of it.

 

And guess what?    The off-the-charts price inflation predicted at Walmart and Dominos pizza has not manifested itself.    Weird, huh?


That Dominos pizza now that is some really shitty pizza! Yuk

Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker

That Dominos pizza now that is some really shitty pizza! Yuk


That we can agree on.

I can't remember the last time I've had Dominoes pizza.

There's just too much good pie in my area to have that ''shit''.

Originally posted by: Vegas Todd

I can't remember the last time I've had Dominoes pizza.

There's just too much good pie in my area to have that ''shit''.


It's worth the $6 they charge for it. Maybe not $6.05. But I've used them as a reasonable antidote to the situation when the only food in the house is a can of lima beans and a chunk of liverwurst in the fridge that has grown blue fur and is slowly moving.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

It's worth the $6 they charge for it. Maybe not $6.05. But I've used them as a reasonable antidote to the situation when the only food in the house is a can of lima beans and a chunk of liverwurst in the fridge that has grown blue fur and is slowly moving.


True. Making ramen noodles is too much work sometimes. ;/

Rather than pay $15hr, retailers, fast food & QSRs are going to self serve kiosks. 

 

Less employees. 

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