Special Thanks To Tom

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Kevin is just mad because Tom was right and he was wrong.  Just own up to it.  

 

Got to give Tom a lot of credit too.  He isn't gloating about it.  Kudos again to Tom!


You can say he was right, but he kept saying that Biden was senile, which is obviously false, and I continually called him out on it.

 

He was and is wrong.

Joe is senile.  Suffering from dementia/alzheimers.   Pretty easy to see.  

 

But I wish him the best.  Glad he is finally gone.  

Edited on Jul 22, 2024 5:18pm

Complete bullpucky.

Biden is not senile.   He does have cognitive decline.   Those words are not synonymous.     Saying "word A" when you meant "word B" is not dementia.      Yes - He's lost a step.  Fine.   But he's not senile.   Thats a bunch of bullshit the sore losers of the right have been selling right along side their other bullshit about rigged voting machines.

 

He was directly involved with every piece of legislation his administration passed....and he was directly involved with the Israel/ Gaza negotians including some of the early releases of hostages....and by all accounts he was directly involved with the recent NATO summit.    

 

He's done more in his 4 years than any president since the millennium - or even 30 years prior to that.

 

He was/is a great president.   And he is a horrible presidential candidate.   Mainly because we live in a country where people shit their pants when he says "word A" and meant "word B".    Something Trump does quite a bit too, by the way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Joe is senile.  Suffering from dementia/alzheimers.   Pretty easy to see.  

 

But I wish him the best.  Glad he is finally gone.  


Absolutely wrong, Jerry. 


You are crazy if you think he was responsible for anything.  Give his people credit for that stuff behind the scenes; I'm fine with that.  He can and could barely decide what flavor of ice cream he wanted daily.   You have to know that or you live in a fantasy world.  Are you there daily watching what he does and doesn't do?  What I see is a guy that has lost his mind and so do you.  Pick whatever word you want to describe it.  He called Harris "VP Trump" last week.  He called Zelinsky "President Putin."  Honestly, do I need to write more than that?  One question and then we can agree to disagree - would you get in a car with Joe driving?

 

At least his idiot wife finally did the right thing.  

Edited on Jul 22, 2024 6:45pm

Jerry, I 100% guarantee you this much.

 

Neither Trump Nor Harris will pass even 1/4 as much legislation as Biden did.   Know why?  Neither one of them knows how to work accross the aisle.       Thats Joe Biden's gift and it has been for his entire tenure in government.   Its a special kind of skill to rise above partisan name calling and actually smile and work in good faith with someone who just got done with a cable news segment kicking dirt in your face.

 

Joe Biden's "handlers" did not get Republican votes for his infrastructure, chips, or Ukraine.    And you dont have to take my word on it.   You can ask Kevin McCarthy or Mike Johnson about their own encounters with him on those issues and the debt ceiling.   And his direct work on international issus like Israel and NATO are a matter of record.

 

Joe Biden was more than capable of being president.  He's just not capable of running for it.    And that really says more about our dumbed down population than it does his cognitive ability.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough.  I can't disagree with that.  

 

But I have to ask.  What is the big deal with infrastructure?  Isn't it just government setting aside a shit-ton of $ for bridges and roads?  I really don't get the big deal with it.  Is it that we create all these blue collar jobs?  I'm honestly just asking.  Why is that such a big win?  

 

And btw, I hate Trump.  I mean, really hate him.  I didn't hate Biden.  I just thought he had lost it.  

Edited on Jul 22, 2024 7:15pm
Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Fair enough.  I can't disagree with that.  

 

But I have to ask.  What is the big deal with infrastructure?  Isn't it just government setting aside a shit-ton of $ for bridges and roads?  I really don't get the big deal with it.  Is it that we create all these blue collar jobs?  I'm honestly just asking.  Why is that such a big win?  

 

And btw, I hate Trump.  I mean, really hate him.  I didn't hate Biden.  I just thought he had lost it.  


What's the big deal????

 

1) Consider all the roads, bridges, etc. etc. in the US that are overdue for repair or replacement. Obviously, we can only fix a small fraction of them with the resources available. So a major but mostly unseen element of the infrastructure bill was determining which elements were in dire need of attention, and then scheduling all the various repairs that will be needed. It was a far from trivial task. And it could only have been done using federal resources and oversight. Previously, the states had to deal with any structures that weren't on federal land or part of the federal interstate system--using their own funds.

 

2) The move toward sustainable energy is a major step forward. Whatever your politics may be, you have to acknowledge that it's going to be tremendously beneficial. And yes, we're all going to be driving electric cars. Fine with me! I've bled too much to the fossil fuel companies.

 

3) Yes indeed, job creation. In particular, skilled labor from people without college degrees, a demographic that has lagged behind others in wage growth.

 

4) Infrastructure improvements will reduce both cost of goods and inflation. The estimate is that the boost to the economy will be approximately fifteen times the amount of money spent (over the next ten years).

 

5) Communities without access to reliable clean drinking water will receive it (hard to believe there are such communities, but you'd be surprised). Communities without access to high-speed internet will receive it.

 

There are far too many benefits to list, but the the major theme is getting resources, in one form or another, to underserved communities and individuals.

Regarding INfrastructure

-4 out of 5 bridges in this country are deemed unsafe but still in operation.   

-We had a rail incident in East Palestine  recently which was due in part to overburdened rail lines.

- We have an energy grid that is localized and not able to transfer electricity nationally...and also insuffcient for upcoming demand from AI and EV.   

-Our ports are not able to handle spikes in demand as proven after the economy opened post COVID.   

-people are reluctant to buy EV vehicles because the infrastructure is not in place to support their charging. 

-People who live in rural areas suffer from a lack of internet access due to lack of broadband

-Airports are overburdened with too much traffic and not enough gates to serve it.

 

Addressing these issues is not a vanity project.   These problems impact our economy.  Every president so far this century ran their platform on addressing some of these or all of them.   Bush, Obama, Trump....and Biden.  

 

Biden did it.   And he needed 60 votes to get it done with only 50 Senators from his party comprising the Senate.    Guarnatee you Harris or Trump wont get 60 votes for anything.

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Joe is senile.  Suffering from dementia/alzheimers.   Pretty easy to see.  

 

But I wish him the best.  Glad he is finally gone.  


He's not gone.....He's still the President.  Just not seeking reelection, like other Presidents have done over the years.  

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