State governments monitoring women's pregnancies? Trump is cool with that.

Originally posted by: tom

The 2nd amendment says the people have the right to bear arms.  The 14th amendment says no state can pass a law that infringes on those rights


I get that, I see the connection you were making.  Basically, the 14th Amendments says that states can not take away a citizen's right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment....but the 2nd Amendment was intended for the country to have militia in case of invasion, as there wasn't a very big standing army at the time.  

 

Does this mean that I don't believe people should own guns.  Not at all.  If a person wants to own guns, that's their right as a citizen.  My point is the 2nd Amendment, as it pertains to militia is outdated, as it's intended purpose was for common defense, since there was a distrust for a large permanent army....like the British had, and the militia had to deal with at the start of the Revolutionary War. 

  

I disagree with your interpretation of the intent of the 2nd amendment.  This is an interesting article that states that the 2nd amendment was passed to guarantee that the south could arm its population to preserve slavery. https://truthout.org/articles/the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-preserve-slavery/  The word guns, firearms, or weapons is not included in the 14th amendment nor are the words privacy or abortion.  It was an interpretation by a majority of the Supreme Court as to the 1791 original intent of the 2nd amendment that took away states right pertaining to gun laws. Just like it is an interpretation of the Constitution on cases brought before the Supreme Court.  Take care.

Edited on May 6, 2024 7:17am

The right to bear arms is an all inlcusive term meaning guns/weapons etc.  The SC has been consistent on this

Originally posted by: tom

The right to bear arms is an all inlcusive term meaning guns/weapons etc.  The SC has been consistent on this


Sun rises, tom lies.

 

Unless grenade launchers are protected by the 2nd.


Originally posted by: tom

The right to bear arms is an all inlcusive term meaning guns/weapons etc.  The SC has been consistent on this


No they haven't. In fact they totally disregarded decades of precedent.  

Originally posted by: Sledhead

Perfect answer, leave it up to the states. Federal government has bigger things to worry about. He never said he was cool with it, nice try though.


Absolutely.  It should be decided by the states.  I don't want the states to prevent a woman from heading to legal state for an abortion, however.

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