The Status of America Today

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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Oh, I was waiting for someone like Millerscum to say something like that, but you? I'm disappointed.

 

If a citizen casts a lawful vote, that, by definition, absolutely, positively, is not and cannot be a danger. A candidate can be a danger, but if the people vote for him, so be it.

 

The outcome of an election is what the people want. Can it be a mistake, error, bad decision? Oh, sure, definitely. But can we attach a "wisdom" rider to enfranchisement? NO! idiots can and should be able to vote. I would fiercely advocate for the right of Millerpig, stupid Tom, and Boilerboob to vote, even though they're appallingly stupid and evil.

 

I think that if we truly believe in our democracy, we have to accept all of the outcomes it produces. In 2024, the people wanted Trump. That was obviously a horrible mistake, but it was a democratic result. If we consider one vote or another to be a "danger," it's a baby step from there to restricting or outright preventing "dangerous" votes.

 

The Nazis did that. The Soviets did that. MAGA wants to do that. I don't.

 

I do favor the sterilization and/or ritual disembowelment of all Republicans, but not their disenfranchisement, even though they definitely ARE a danger.

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Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

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@David

If the voting age was 21 we would have a situation where 18 was too young to drink or vote but one could be drafted into military service. To remedy this absurdity would you be supportive of increasing the drafting age to 21?

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Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

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So you feel that 18 is too young to choose representatives but not too young to be forced into the military? 

 

If one pays taxes and could be drafted shouldn't they be able to have a say in how that tax money is spent and a say in who represents them in government? 

 

Why should an 18-year-old soldier be denied the very freedoms and rights for which he is being asked to fight. 

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Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

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But you want the voting age to change to 21 and the draft age to remain 18. 

 

If that happens then those 18 year olds are in a position where they are taxed and they can be drafted but they have no vote. They would not be able to have any say in how the government functions. They would be denied a freedom that they're being asked to fight for. 

 

And drinking alcohol is indeed a right.

 

 

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Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

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But you want the voting age to change to 21 and the draft age to remain 18. 

 

If that happens then those 18 year olds are in a position where they are taxed and they can be drafted but they have no vote. They would not be able to have any say in how the government functions. They would be denied a freedom that they're being asked to fight for. 

 

And drinking alcohol is indeed a right.

 

 

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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 Bullshit -- from Google --- No, the drinking of alcohol is not considered a fundamental "right," but rather a regulated privilege in the United States and many other countries. While adults may have the legal freedom to consume alcohol, it is subject to significant government regulation concerning age, time, place, and manner of consumption. --- Here is a breakdown of the legal and social context: Legal Privilege, Not Right: Rights are generally considered inalienable (like free speech or voting), whereas consuming alcohol is a legal action permitted only to those who meet certain criteria (usually being 21 or older in the U.S.). 21st Amendment: In the U.S., the 21st Amendment gives states the authority to regulate the sale, transport, and consumption of alcohol. Restrictions: States frequently impose restrictions on alcohol, such as minimum drinking age laws (21), hours of sale, "dry" counties, and public consumption bans. Exceptions: Underage drinking is generally illegal, though some states allow it in specific, private scenarios (e.g., in the presence of parents or for religious ceremonies). Global Perspectives: While drinking is legal in many places, some countries have total prohibition, and others restrict it by religion or local law. Ultimately, because government entities can restrict, ban, or regulate alcohol consumption, it is legally defined as a privilege managed for public safety.

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Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

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It is like trying to reason with a chimp.  Just give up LiveFree

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