Syrian Rebels advance as Russia/Iran unable to help.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I remember when Boilerman preached about the merits of the Iraq WMD hunt and blasted Obama for correctly pointing out that was all bullshit.

 

Now Boilerman is defending the pro-Russia, pro-Iran regime in Syria that commits genecide against democratic rebels who align with Turkey.

 

Boilerman has come a long, long way in his foreign poilicy.


That's back when Dick and Liz Cheney were Republicans, PJ..  Now they're solidly behind the Democrat War Machine.  In case you hadn't noticed, it's Trump who will realistically push for peace and the Democrats who have become the Warmongers.  PJ is.willing to fight to the last Ukrainian even if we have to mortgage our grandchildren's future to pay for it. 

 

Maybe Ukraine needs to try having an election and let their people decide since they are now a dictatorship without elections.  Oh and they outlawed the press except for State  Press.  And outlawed Zel's 11 opposition political parties.  And banned certain churches and religious organizations.  Even in the darkest days of our Civil War, we remained a Democracy.  Ukraine not so much.  But I'm sure PJ is all for supplying them with Nukes and letting them join NATO.  Is that your plan for victory or your plan for WWIII, PJ?

Edited on Dec 9, 2024 11:17am
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Syria's dictatorship has officially collapsed - and that is a direct result of the Ukraine war the US supported (minus the help of the MAGA Republican caucus).       

 

Ukraine has killed 700K Russian soldiers and Russia has seen more over a million men under 30 flee the country.....all while the Russian Ruble  has collapsed.   And MAGA's response is to hide under their desk because they dont want WW3 or whatever pants-peeing hyperbole they repeat from pro-Russian propoganda on FOX News.   

 

I cant wait to see what Tulsi Gabbard has to say !     


PJ and the War Machine Democrats and Neo Cons cheer the death of 700,000 Russians and likely an equal number of Ukrainians.  Now he cheers the rise of the terrorist group HTS in Syria whose leader ws part of ISIS that killed US troops in Iraq.  Support for Terrorists?  Cheering the killing of over a million human beings?  The democrats have become the warmongers they used to hate. 

 

Yet he never tells us what his proposed end game is in Ukraine.  Give them Nukes?  Boots on the ground?  Let them join NATO?  This war and the sensless killing needs to end now.   Trump is right on Syria.  Not our war.  Trump is right on Ukraine.  Stop the killing now through a negotiated settlement..  PJ and democrats now worship at the temple of escalating the forever wars and promoting chaos in the middle east.  Jan 20 can't come too soon.

Charles, you voted for Obama in 2008, right?  

 

Kamala Harris never once endorsed Liz and Dick Cheny's foreign policy.  Liz and Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris response to Jan 6.   And that was a bridge too far for your pacifist, anti-violence .

 

Get ready to rationalize Trump pardoning all those people.   I wont have to rationalize anything.   My conscience is clear on that front.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: CharlesII

That's back when Dick and Liz Cheney were Republicans, PJ..  Now they're solidly behind the Democrat War Machine.  In case you hadn't noticed, it's Trump who will realistically push for peace and the Democrats who have become the Warmongers.  PJ is.willing to fight to the last Ukrainian even if we have to mortgage our grandchildren's future to pay for it. 

 

Maybe Ukraine needs to try having an election and let their people decide since they are now a dictatorship without elections.  Oh and they outlawed the press except for State  Press.  And outlawed Zel's 11 opposition political parties.  And banned certain churches and religious organizations.  Even in the darkest days of our Civil War, we remained a Democracy.  Ukraine not so much.  But I'm sure PJ is all for supplying them with Nukes and letting them join NATO.  Is that your plan for victory or your plan for WWIII, PJ?


Yeah, the "Democrat War Machine." The side that wants to help Ukraine survive, and by extension, the rest of Europe. While your orange god Trump wants "peace"--as in, surrender, so he can slurp on Putin's dick a llittle more lovingly.

 

I doubt you'd be bleating for "peace" (surrender) if the eastern third of the US was occupied by an invading army.

 

And Charles buddy, you're right in bed with Trump and Putin, fondling Putin's dick and begging him to be nice, saying please please please don't rattle your nuclear weapons saber, it makes us SOOOO scared.

 

The only way to deal with aggressive bullies is to stand up to them. And yeah, you might get a bloody nose in the process. But you can't let the bullies win without a fight. Y'see, Charles, I'm a student of history. I know what happened when Europe kissed Hitler's ass--he almost took over the entire continent. And I know what will happen if Trump kisses Putin's ass.

 

Shame on you for kowtowing to bullies and worshipping the orange coward who wants to spread his cheeks for Putin.


Syrian tyrant,Bashar al-Assad, is currently getting his ass kicked by rebels backed by Turkey.

 

Leaders are form ISIS and Al quaida.  Just a different type of thug

Originally posted by: tom

Syrian tyrant,Bashar al-Assad, is currently getting his ass kicked by rebels backed by Turkey.

 

Leaders are form ISIS and Al quaida.  Just a different type of thug


Remains to be seen.    They promise moderation.   

Regardless, it shows Iran and Russia dont have control over the Middle East anymore.    That is a postive development....unless your afraid of (gulp !)   WW3  which according to Charles and Aaron is imminent unless we surrender to Putin.

We don't own Ukraine and we have no NATO treaty with Ukraine.  IDGAF about a corrupt 3rd world country and could care less if Russia took it.  That's not surrendering, we have no reason to supply arms and escalate a war with a nuclear power.  We don't need to be the world police and any NATO country we have a treaty with is protected.

 

And you might ask why Hunter's pardon reaches back nearly 11 years to the actual start of the war in Ukraine when he was with Burisma, giving him cover for crimes that he hasn't even been charged for against the United States of America.  What a dirty family.

 

 

For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) 

Edited on Dec 10, 2024 5:34pm
Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya

We don't own Ukraine and we have no NATO treaty with Ukraine.  IDGAF about a corrupt 3rd world country and could care less if Russia took it.  That's not surrendering, we have no reason to supply arms and escalate a war with a nuclear power.  We don't need to be the world police and any NATO country we have a treaty with is protected.

 

And you might ask why Hunter's pardon reaches back nearly 11 years to the actual start of the war in Ukraine when he was with Burisma, giving him cover for crimes that he hasn't even been charged for against the United States of America.  What a dirty family.

 

 

For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) 


Are you really so naive as to think that if Putin ate Ukraine, with ultimately zero cost to him other than a couple hundred thousand dead Russian soldiers (meh!), he would settle back in his chair, burp, and be satisfied?

 

You're pretty ignorant of history if you think so.

 

And no one gives a flying fuck about what Hunter Biden did or didn't do. He's one man. So stop fucking harping on that already--Jesus Christ!

 

Also, I gather that you're consumed with righteous outrage about Biden's pardon of Hunter. How do you feel, then, about Trump pardoning every Jan. 6 insurrectionist? Are their crimes less serious than Hunter's? Murder and an attempt to violently overthrow the government, or tax evasion? Hmmm...put on your Iggo "thinking" cap, now...

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Are you really so naive as to think that if Putin ate Ukraine, with ultimately zero cost to him other than a couple hundred thousand dead Russian soldiers (meh!), he would settle back in his chair, burp, and be satisfied?

 

You're pretty ignorant of history if you think so.

 

And no one gives a flying fuck about what Hunter Biden did or didn't do. He's one man. So stop fucking harping on that already--Jesus Christ!

 

Also, I gather that you're consumed with righteous outrage about Biden's pardon of Hunter. How do you feel, then, about Trump pardoning every Jan. 6 insurrectionist? Are their crimes less serious than Hunter's? Murder and an attempt to violently overthrow the government, or tax evasion? Hmmm...put on your Iggo "thinking" cap, now...


That one man is linked to James and Joe Biden, who will both receive Presidential Pardons by Joe, which will be even more exceptional than Hunter's pardon.  After that happens I do hope that Trump trumps the pardoning package by giving himself a pardon that ranges from birth to 2100 just to stick it to you idiots that think the Hunter pardon and the upcoming Joe and James pardons are a good thing.  Maybe then we'll get some reform started.  

 

This Ukraine war that started in 2014 goes deeper than your limited comprehension of world events can manage.  You probably think it was started by Russian 'aggression' when NATO has been running roughshod over every treaty and promise for decades forcing them to push back.  And like I said, IDGAF about Ukraine, Syria or any other craphole, we have enough problems at home without pushing western MIC goals.

 

Yes, pardon them all, we have a template now that Joe has gone and opened the chicken coop.  And yes, their crimes are in nearly every case (there are some asshats that deserve what they get), minor and just a political move by the liberals to smash their opponents as most fascists like to do.  

 

 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Remains to be seen.    They promise moderation.   

Regardless, it shows Iran and Russia dont have control over the Middle East anymore.    That is a postive development....unless your afraid of (gulp !)   WW3  which according to Charles and Aaron is imminent unless we surrender to Putin.


How did that moderate claim work out for the Taliban?  They went back on that claim almost immediately. 

instead of Russia arming Syria, Iran will arm Syria. 

Nothing  has changed. 

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