Tariff Negotiations

 They are progressing --

Oops, car manufacturers are starting to move production out of the US due to tariffs. That's not what is supposed to happen.

Massive blow to Trump as Japanese car giant moves manufacturing OUT of US in tariff twist

Subaru will be shipping Outbacks from Japan to Canada instead of from the US.

Mazda to temporarily halt US CX-50 SUV production for Canadian market

Gosh, lesbians are going to have to wait longer to renew their leases on Suburu Foresters!

Probably not, I'm sure Subaru has inventory ready to go as their dealerships sale through the pre-tariff vehicles.

I found it interesting to think about the exports that the US had established with the US-Mexico-Canada trade agreement in place. A lot of people thought it was a good agreement when it was signed.

Wow 17,000 cars; will the republic survive?

Meanwhile.

The total size of the announced investments since Trump took office on January 20, 2025, is just over $2.8 trillion.

Last week, AI chip giant NVIDIA (NASDAQ:NVDA) announced an investment of over $100 billion in the U.S., and pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson (NYSE:JNJ) announced a more than $55 billion investment.

On Monday, the Trump administration added Hyundai (OTC:HYMTF) to the list, with the conglomerate planning to announce a $20 billion U.S. investment. The South Korean company’s reported plan includes the construction of a $5 billion steel plant in Louisiana. The onshoring operation from Hyundai is expected to create 1,500 jobs.

https://www.investing.com/news/politics-news/investment-commitments-in-us-nears-3-trillion-since-trump-took-office-3945050

On the other thread Tom called Mark sick for rooting for Tesla to fail.

But Tom shrugs off US auto layoffs directly resulting from Trump's economic policy:  Mazda is just the latest example.   Stellantis has stopped production too.    

See my above post.  $3T including Hyundai ($20B) to be invested in the US; more than enough investment to cover the handful of cars Suburu produces for canada

The US produces 10.6m cars annually.  The 17,000 cars in question suburu produces is 0.02% of US production.  

None of your links ever work, but thanks for the effort.  I thought it was interesting to think about the exports to Mexico and Canada that drama queen Trump will jeopardize with his on-again off-again tariffs, a lot of people thought the US-Mexico-Canada trade agreement was one of the best trade agreements that had been done. Everything you've listed are "announced investments", the two articles I found interesting are happening now.

Remember Foxconn?

How long do you thnk that it will take Hyundai to be ready to hire American workers in the $20B manufacturing plants? More than 4 years?

Could it be possible Hyundai decided to make that commitment knowing that when the political climate in the US turns, they will go back to business as usual and not invest any of the additional $20B they pledged?

Death by a thousand cuts.

Not that I'm saying the US will fail because of this, but companies may decide and have decided to look for alternate markets. Will they leave the US? Of course not.

It's like Southwest Airlines, a very popular airline on this forum. I normally just booked my flights on Southwest and moved on. Now with their changes, I will look at other carriers to compare, maybe I will take a few flights on other carriers that I had not even considered before and Southwest will lose out on that business.