Teacher shortages

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

And to answer your question Edso.....I don't teach but I sit on a school board.  The teachers that march in and complain about silly things are mindless individuals. It just can't be very hard.  Sorry, it that hits a sore spot with you.  I'm not saying there aren't really good teachers out there but it is a small minority for sure.  $75K feels about right with the rich benefits they get.  


So JerryMAGA holds a position (I won't call ii a "job") that he thinks is all about mocking teachers and denying their requests. So he sits at his desk and says, "You already earn WAAAAY too much money!" when a teacher asks for a 3% cost of living salary increase, or an allowance for the supplies that she's forced to buy for her classes.

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Actually I'm not ignorant.  I make those rates above per hour with my salary. 

 

I don't care how many "long hours" the teachers work.  It is very easy work.  Our state university wants me to come teach there.  So I'd say I am qualified.  Are any of your grade school subs/teachers asked to teach at your state university?  Didn't think so.  

 

As far as Kevin's stupid pension claim goes.  Most companies these days don't offer pensions at all.  But you'd have to live in the real world to know that I guess.  The fact you all think these elementary teaching jobs are so hard pretty much sums it up that none of you live in the real world.  


You may not think that "long hours" make teaching a hard job, but they assuredly do. It's a real strain, and a pain in the ass, when you can't have a social life or you just can't watch a TV show because there's a pile of papers you have to grade. You get asked to stay into the evening and talk to a parade of parents who are upset that their little woogums are averaging a C-minus and it must be your fault. You don't get paid for those hours.

 

And Jerry, whatever your academic qualifications may be--with your personality and general assholery, you could NEVER be a grade school teacher. It requires human virtues like empathy, patience, and understanding...all of which you lack. Your responses here are quite illustrative of your deficiencies.

Originally posted by: Edso

Jerry must have been a teacher, or maybe has family that are/were teachers to know how easy the job is and how much teacher's pensions are.   And while the workday is 7:30 to 3:30, there are those of us that get there before 7am and don't leave until 4pm.  My wife doesn't leave until 5pm some days, and she actually teaches T-K, the 3 and 4 year olds.  But, it's the life we chose (33 years and counting for me, 22 years for her), so we're not complaining.  

 

Subs here in Riverside make $200 per day, and credentialed individuals, which include retirees, that substitute make $250.  That jumps to $300 if you take a long term position and teach over 20 consecutive school days.  Not a bad chunk of change for a retired teacher. 


There's a bit of a paperwork dance here in Oregon. I wanted to renew my full teaching license after an eight-year hiatus, so I could sub--i had no interest in full-time. But they wanted me to pay fees for the intervening eight years when I was "lapsed." So I got a restricted license, which means that I can't teach more than ten consecutive days at any one school. That isn't a real impediment.

 

Depending on the district, I get anywhere from $210 to $265 per diem. It ain't bad, and I can pick and choose when and where I work. I've made myself eligible for districts all over Portland. There's not much work now, but there will be very soon.

 

People ask me about the subjects and grades that I teach, and my answer is "all." I stay away from language classes and PE, but otherwise, bring it on. My favorite students are the K-1 crowd. They're so cute, VERY eager to learn, and haven't yet become recalcitrant assholes like every fifth-grade boy does.

 

Perhaps the biggest adjustment I've had to make is realizing that I'm expected not so much to teach but rather, make sure the students are present and still alive at the end of the day, and the classroom ceiling hasn't fallen in.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

So JerryMAGA holds a position (I won't call ii a "job") that he thinks is all about mocking teachers and denying their requests. So he sits at his desk and says, "You already earn WAAAAY too much money!" when a teacher asks for a 3% cost of living salary increase, or an allowance for the supplies that she's forced to buy for her classes.


I never said they couldn't have a 3% COLA.  And I never said the job wasn't important.  I said the job is fairly easy and low-skilled.  Plus I said about $75K for someone after 10-15 years feels about right to me.....with the benefits.  (Pension and almost 100% paid for heath insurance)

 

Hey, what happened to your "Fuck you, Jerry!" responses only?  That didn't last long.  


Remember how many times kevin said he was a full time teacher and recently retired.   Then he was a substitute teacher. 

Now he says he had to renew his license after an 8 year lapse. 

Yet another Kevin lie. 

Originally posted by: tom

Remember how many times kevin said he was a full time teacher and recently retired.   Then he was a substitute teacher. 

Now he says he had to renew his license after an 8 year lapse. 

Yet another Kevin lie. 


Wow.  I have plenty of bones to pick with Kevin, but I'm not getting the barrage of hate about his teaching career, whether he worked full time or part time or sub or whatever for however long.  Who should care about this other than Kevin?  Somebody is struggling over the math...what Kevin claimed and what he actually does or did or cares to do.   Why take up space with this crap?  Kevin, PLEASE stop replying to these stupid barbs about your teaching job(s).   P.S, I bet you might have changed a few didies along the way in those baby grades, LOL. 

 

My teacher friends all have those late stays at the workplace to finish up, with NO overtime pay.  And the paper grading, and the lesson plans.  No down time at home, often.  

 

And so right about parents having their say with teachers after work, complaining about the grade their little darlings got, sometimes with their attorneys in tow.  As if the parent spend 15 minutes helping their kid understand about DOING and TURNING IN the homework.  

 

My nursing job was hell on earth some days, but at least I had no 'home work' once I got home.

 

Candy

 

 

Kevin spends all his time here hurling insults at people but at the same time he tells numerous lies/tales about his make believe jobs.  

He posted numerous tales of teaching 3rd grade. 

 

Edited on Sep 13, 2025 3:04pm
Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I never said they couldn't have a 3% COLA.  And I never said the job wasn't important.  I said the job is fairly easy and low-skilled.  Plus I said about $75K for someone after 10-15 years feels about right to me.....with the benefits.  (Pension and almost 100% paid for heath insurance)

 

Hey, what happened to your "Fuck you, Jerry!" responses only?  That didn't last long.  


My bad. Fuck you, Jerry.

Originally posted by: tom

Remember how many times kevin said he was a full time teacher and recently retired.   Then he was a substitute teacher. 

Now he says he had to renew his license after an 8 year lapse. 

Yet another Kevin lie. 


You're truly obsessed with me, aren't you. I'm sorry to say, I'm never going out with you, and all those emails you keep sending me begging for a meetup for a blowjob? I've blocked them.

 

Stupid little pervert Tom.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Wow.  I have plenty of bones to pick with Kevin, but I'm not getting the barrage of hate about his teaching career, whether he worked full time or part time or sub or whatever for however long.  Who should care about this other than Kevin?  Somebody is struggling over the math...what Kevin claimed and what he actually does or did or cares to do.   Why take up space with this crap?  Kevin, PLEASE stop replying to these stupid barbs about your teaching job(s).   P.S, I bet you might have changed a few didies along the way in those baby grades, LOL. 

 

My teacher friends all have those late stays at the workplace to finish up, with NO overtime pay.  And the paper grading, and the lesson plans.  No down time at home, often.  

 

And so right about parents having their say with teachers after work, complaining about the grade their little darlings got, sometimes with their attorneys in tow.  As if the parent spend 15 minutes helping their kid understand about DOING and TURNING IN the homework.  

 

My nursing job was hell on earth some days, but at least I had no 'home work' once I got home.

 

Candy

 

 


Yeah, Candy, stupid Tom and JerryMAGA in particular like to pitch insults about my teaching career; the stupidest aspect of those insults is that they have absolutely no way of knowing anything about it--yet, they claim they do!! How fucking idiotic!

 

I'm proud to be and to have been a teacher. The ignorant gang everywhere belittles what we do. I think part of that is crud like Tom and Jerry don't have anything to be proud of in their lives. They know that if you're a worthless person with no accomplishments, the best way to feel better about yourself is to tear down someone else.

 

Candy, I'd wager that you've found that your profession is very often misrepresented and belittled as well. In particular, people think that doctors provide about 3/4 of a patient's care and nurses 1/4 of it, when the reality is that it's the other way around. Nurses have the primary role in not only patient care but also diagnostics, particularly as they advance in their field. A nurse practitioner is the same as a doctor, just with a smaller salary; the role was created as a backdoor way to allow a WOOMUN to practice medicine (gasp!). I'll lay long odds that at one time or another, just about everyone you came into contact with both questioned your judgment and blamed you if anything went wrong.

 

Which is certainly what teachers experience as well, particularly for people like Jerry and Tom whose voyage through school was a bit, er, rocky. They blame their teachers for their own ignorance, just like a former patient blames his nurse for the owwie he still has after coming home from the hospital (when the real cause is that he still downs six shots of bourbon every day, despite doctor's orders).

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