Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
An opinion cannot be the truth. If it is, it's not an opinion.
This should not be so hard for you.
Let me educate you - according to Google today, I asked this question (and the response) -- (1) -- Can an opinion be considered the truth? -- the response - (2) --An opinion can be considered "the truth" if it aligns with verifiable reality,
Originally posted by: David Miller
Apparently you place more value on form that actual content. The "unpleasent fellow" spoke the truth after being forced to listen to the excuses and lies she spews time and again. Finally, he had enough and said what he had to say in the only way she would see the folly of her thinking. Millions of sane Americans concur with what he said and how he said it.
Yes I do place value on form, as it suggests a person with discernment, respect for those receiving the message, confidence in in the subject and their viewpoint enough that they don't have to bully the other person. Granted, I didn't watch enough to even know who the female was and why he was losing control.
Candy
Originally posted by: David Miller
Let me educate you - according to Google today, I asked this question (and the response) -- (1) -- Can an opinion be considered the truth? -- the response - (2) --An opinion can be considered "the truth" if it aligns with verifiable reality,
"Can be considered" is not the same as "is." And Google is a ridiculous source for anything.
You need to use a legitimate dictionary.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Yes I do place value on form, as it suggests a person with discernment, respect for those receiving the message, confidence in in the subject and their viewpoint enough that they don't have to bully the other person. Granted, I didn't watch enough to even know who the female was and why he was losing control.
Candy
Apparently, neither he nor Miller realize that delivering his message in that way weakens, not strengthens it. But consider that Miller worships Trump, who is a bully, and cleaves to his every word and action.
As far as respect for those receiving the message, do you think that Miller has any respect for anyone here?
Hey, Millerscum, you like Google so much, I have an exercise for you!
Query: Can an opinion be factual?
Answer: "An opinion can be based on fact, but it cannot be a fact itself. Because opinions rely on personal judgments, values, and interpretations, they cannot be proven objectively true or false.
Facts are objective realities that can be proven or disproven.
Opinions are subjective beliefs."
Google hath spoken! But do you understand?
Try it yourself! Then keep on twisting the phrasing of the query so that you get an answer that sounds good to you! I'll be over here, laughing at you!
Whatever you do, never admit you're wrong!!!!
Now hear this:
I composed that post explaining, to David and anyone else, why "form" counts with me. I even confessed that I hadn't watched the entire video. Apparently Kevin concured with my point about "form" being a reasonable criterion with which to value a person's delivery/speech/argument.
The problem: Kevin used my post to attack David...again...sigh. I prefer that Kevin not use my posts as a launching pad for his attacks on David, i.e. "Miller worships Trump, who is a bully..." etc. For Kevin to do so suggests that he and I are in harmony in his horrid opinion of David, which is not the case. I'm perfectly capable of discernment about David's politics and David's pro-Trump stance, just as I am about Kevin's politics and his anti-Trump stance.
I prefer that no poster quote a post of mine and use it to attack David or anyone else, as if that poster's words and/or sentiments were mine. Is this too hard to understand?
Thank you.
Candy
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Now hear this:
I composed that post explaining, to David and anyone else, why "form" counts with me. I even confessed that I hadn't watched the entire video. Apparently Kevin concured with my point about "form" being a reasonable criterion with which to value a person's delivery/speech/argument.
The problem: Kevin used my post to attack David...again...sigh. I prefer that Kevin not use my posts as a launching pad for his attacks on David, i.e. "Miller worships Trump, who is a bully..." etc. For Kevin to do so suggests that he and I are in harmony in his horrid opinion of David, which is not the case. I'm perfectly capable of discernment about David's politics and David's pro-Trump stance, just as I am about Kevin's politics and his anti-Trump stance.
I prefer that no poster quote a post of mine and use it to attack David or anyone else, as if that poster's words and/or sentiments were mine. Is this too hard to understand?
Thank you.
Candy
Candy - watch the whole video - the message is what is important even if you find the messenger disagreeable.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Now hear this:
I composed that post explaining, to David and anyone else, why "form" counts with me. I even confessed that I hadn't watched the entire video. Apparently Kevin concured with my point about "form" being a reasonable criterion with which to value a person's delivery/speech/argument.
The problem: Kevin used my post to attack David...again...sigh. I prefer that Kevin not use my posts as a launching pad for his attacks on David, i.e. "Miller worships Trump, who is a bully..." etc. For Kevin to do so suggests that he and I are in harmony in his horrid opinion of David, which is not the case. I'm perfectly capable of discernment about David's politics and David's pro-Trump stance, just as I am about Kevin's politics and his anti-Trump stance.
I prefer that no poster quote a post of mine and use it to attack David or anyone else, as if that poster's words and/or sentiments were mine. Is this too hard to understand?
Thank you.
Candy
Candy, I respect your views and opinions, but sometimes, you come up with a real whopper. I didn't "use your post to attack David." I quoted your post and then used MY OWN WORDS to criticize him. I quoted your post because the issue was the form, content, and manner of the post he copied and pasted here...and David's waffling and weaseling, saying that you shouldn't pay attention to that and his message was the shining truth, and that's all that mattered.
I alluded to David's proclivity for presenting strident messages from his Facebook pals and suggested that he likes to do that for the same reason he loves Trump. Just because I quoted you in my post DOES NOT MEAN I WAS SAYING THAT YOU AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OR EVEN ANYTHING I POSTED. I used your post as a springboard.
People can and do quote my posts all the time, sometimes in agreement, sometimes in rabid, vicious disagreement, and sometimes as an avenue for further discussion. That's their right. If I don't want somebody to quote me on something, well, then, maybe I shouldn't post it. If I do, well, then, it's fair game.
I really don't understand your continual rabid Miller advocacy, but hey, I guess he needs allies.
And congrats, David, for kindling yet another argument. You're so, so good at that. It may be your only talent, but you've honed it to a razor's edge. Hatred and division. Just like your orange hero.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Candy, I respect your views and opinions, but sometimes, you come up with a real whopper. I didn't "use your post to attack David." I quoted your post and then used MY OWN WORDS to criticize him. I quoted your post because the issue was the form, content, and manner of the post he copied and pasted here...and David's waffling and weaseling, saying that you shouldn't pay attention to that and his message was the shining truth, and that's all that mattered.
I alluded to David's proclivity for presenting strident messages from his Facebook pals and suggested that he likes to do that for the same reason he loves Trump. Just because I quoted you in my post DOES NOT MEAN I WAS SAYING THAT YOU AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OR EVEN ANYTHING I POSTED. I used your post as a springboard.
People can and do quote my posts all the time, sometimes in agreement, sometimes in rabid, vicious disagreement, and sometimes as an avenue for further discussion. That's their right. If I don't want somebody to quote me on something, well, then, maybe I shouldn't post it. If I do, well, then, it's fair game.
I really don't understand your continual rabid Miller advocacy, but hey, I guess he needs allies.
And congrats, David, for kindling yet another argument. You're so, so good at that. It may be your only talent, but you've honed it to a razor's edge. Hatred and division. Just like your orange hero.
Thanks, Kevin. I'm glad you weren't trying to suggest a connection between David and I, a special allegiance of any kind. So, again, please don't use the Quote function to my post as your "springboard" re David. Your last paragraph above is an example...of what I'd rather not see happen. Quote and discuss all you wish with me, as you often do articulately and respectfully. Just leave David out of it.
I believe what most wrankles you and other David-dislikers is the frequency of his KS posts. So what??
Mostly copied and pasted. So what??
Ridiculous memes, facebook chatter instead of credible authorship. So what??
Pro-Republican and anti-Democrat stuff, all passionately reflecting political beliefs. So what??
Everybody has the right. Maybe not the copy/paste skills, but the reason KS exists. Adults will take a look and move on if not to one's liking. Playground replies only draw out more of the same.
There is the BLOCK function.
Candy
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Thanks, Kevin. I'm glad you weren't trying to suggest a connection between David and I, a special allegiance of any kind. So, again, please don't use the Quote function to my post as your "springboard" re David. Your last paragraph above is an example...of what I'd rather not see happen. Quote and discuss all you wish with me, as you often do articulately and respectfully. Just leave David out of it.
I believe what most wrankles you and other David-dislikers is the frequency of his KS posts. So what??
Mostly copied and pasted. So what??
Ridiculous memes, facebook chatter instead of credible authorship. So what??
Pro-Republican and anti-Democrat stuff, all passionately reflecting political beliefs. So what??
Everybody has the right. Maybe not the copy/paste skills, but the reason KS exists. Adults will take a look and move on if not to one's liking. Playground replies only draw out more of the same.
There is the BLOCK function.
Candy
Candy, I believe you now see the reason Lying Lewis uses me, you or anyone else as an excuse to justify his incessant criticism of any person who does not agree with him and his his hateful, foul mouthed, lying rhetoric. More and more people who read/post here in the Forums are now speaking out about him and his negative, know - it - all postings. Lewis has brought hatred, lies and filth to the Forums and his insane spewings has run off many who used to post here in the sink. He is a cancer - an example of what is wrong in America.
