Thank God I live in Oregon

Portland.gov

 

 

I quoted from your city's website you moron.

 

Always blame the other side for policies enacted by liberal idiots.

 

I'm glad the adults are back in charge.

Edited on Nov 10, 2024 4:00am

Map of Portland Homeless Camps

 

What a mess.  Brazil favelas are an upgrade in comparison.  

 

This place is a giant toilet literally, and all due to liberals destroying what was once a beautiful city.  Same with NYC, SFO, LA.  Liberal policies are a disease.

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You're free to not visit. And why would you? What you see might contradict your preconceived notions.

 

Portland is a major city. All major cities have homeless populations. Portland has very little life-threatening weather, so homeless people can be here without dying. There are compassionate social services available. And unlike red cities, we don't have roving gangs of thugs killing the homeless.

 

We're going to continue to help people instead of demonizing and persecuting them. If that twists your panties, don't fucking visit here. Jesus.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

You're free to not visit. And why would you? What you see might contradict your preconceived notions.

 

Portland is a major city. All major cities have homeless populations. Portland has very little life-threatening weather, so homeless people can be here without dying. There are compassionate social services available. And unlike red cities, we don't have roving gangs of thugs killing the homeless.

 

We're going to continue to help people instead of demonizing and persecuting them. If that twists your panties, don't fucking visit here. Jesus.


Liberal policies caused the issues.  It's a great thing Trump won, otherwise the whole USA would become a shithole like Portland, NYC and San Francisco.


Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya

Liberal policies caused the issues.  It's a great thing Trump won, otherwise the whole USA would become a shithole like Portland, NYC and San Francisco.


You're speaking from belief, not rationality. Do you honestly think that if we devolved to Republican fascism, there would be no such thing as homelessness?

 

You can't name a single "liberal policy" that has caused homelessness, so don't try. Just keep on bleating your foolish talking points.

 

Conservative cities also have large homeless populations, idiot.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

You're speaking from belief, not rationality. Do you honestly think that if we devolved to Republican fascism, there would be no such thing as homelessness?

 

You can't name a single "liberal policy" that has caused homelessness, so don't try. Just keep on bleating your foolish talking points.

 

Conservative cities also have large homeless populations, idiot.


Liberal government during 16 of the last 12 years has everything to do with countrywide issues.

 

 1.  Every globalist policy implemented to stop 1.5* of warming before 2100 by stopping the use of cheap fossil fuels has caused homelessness by raising the cost of energy.  You're dumb enough you probably don't realize cheap energy means cheap everything.  High cost of energy means people can't afford groceries, rent and any good standard of living,

Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya

Liberal government during 16 of the last 12 years has everything to do with countrywide issues.

 

 1.  Every globalist policy implemented to stop 1.5* of warming before 2100 by stopping the use of cheap fossil fuels has caused homelessness by raising the cost of energy.  You're dumb enough you probably don't realize cheap energy means cheap everything.  High cost of energy means people can't afford groceries, rent and any good standard of living,


16 of the last 12 years? What are you smoking?

 

Fossil fuels aren't "cheap," fool. And far from their use having been "stopped," the world now produces--and consumes--more fossil fuel energy than it ever has in history.

 

So-called "liberal" renewable energy lowers the cost of energy for everyone. A greater supply of energy, from all sources, makes the price of energy lower. DUHHHHHHH, Iggo!

 

And it ain't just "liberal" policies. Most of the renewable energy being currently generated in the US is in red states! A megawatt of energy from solar or wind power now costs less than a megawatt of energy from fossil fuel consumption.

 

So your argument about fossil fuels is a giant stinking crock of shit.

 

If homelessness is directly connected to the cost of energy--a dubious and stupid premise, but let's go with it--then liberal policies have decreased homelessness by increasing the overall energy supply and thereby lowering costs.

 

You're refuted and schooled, Iggo. Have the guts to admit it.

So just to be clear, so did the homeless problem get better or worse in the last 4 years ?  It seams in our area it is growing, and that does not seam to be a positive.

About five percent of households that now receive utility bill assistance also lose their homes each year as a result of financial stresses between paying for medicines, food, utility bills, or rent. That is roughly 300,000 families losing their homes every year. Three-fourths move in with family or friends, creating new stresses, crowding, and, as the pandemic has shown, health risks. One fourth become homeless or are in public shelters.

 

You act like you're smart, but have no concept of the cost of intermittent and expensive energy in dollars and food insecurity.

 

Some states are blocking cheap gas heat and appliances for only electric in new homes and current home replacements.  This causes higher energy bills.  Stopping or banning fertilizers causes higher food prices.  Banning herds for animal emissions reductions causes higher food prices and shortages.

 

Your liberal globalist policies to 'stop the earth from warming' will kill more people by starving them than purported benefits.

 

 

Edited on Nov 11, 2024 3:26am
Originally posted by: Brent Kline

So just to be clear, so did the homeless problem get better or worse in the last 4 years ?  It seams in our area it is growing, and that does not seam to be a positive.


In order to honestly answer that question, one would have to make a year-over-year comparison, and since gathering that data is a very new exercise, and one that's only done honestly in blue states, I don't see much to go on.

 

That aside, what exactly is "the homeless problem"? It seems to depend on one's political/ideological bent:

 

1) Conservatives: these people exist, and we can't stand the sight of them. Get rid of them!

2) Liberals: these people need help, and we feel sorry for them. Let's help them!

 

You can see this divide in the speechifying of politicians when this issue comes up. Some (guess which) make an appeal to "law and order" and paint the homeless as lowlifes, drug users, thieves, and vandals. Others say it's a social problem brought on by income inequality and should be dealt with using compassion and charity.

 

The talk in Portland is that the problem is getting worse, but unlike many other cities, the proposed solution isn't to just gather them all up and dump them somewhere, maybe in the ocean--it's to build affordable housing. And that highlights the cause of the problem's growth--rising housing costs. There are quite a few homeless people in Portland who work full time but can't afford an apartment.

 

Portland is a desirable place to live and its weather is quite mild most of the year. That means that we are attractive to homeless people/people can become homeless and still stay here. It's more possible to be homeless and still exist here than it is in cities with harsher climates/more drastic anti-homeless policies and atmosphere.

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