Those Lyin' Libs Sure Seem to be a Law and Order Bunch

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

I thought this tactic was also embraced by MAGA, now where have I heard this before??

 

"The Hill - 02/10/2024

 

Former President Trump argued Friday night that he should “not be charged” in his federal classified documents case since a special counsel announced this week that President Biden would not face charges for Biden’s handling of classified materials.

 

“If Biden is not going to be charged, he said, that’s up to them, you know, look, if he’s not going to be charged, that’s up to them, but then I should not be charged,” Trump said speaking at an event for the National Rifle Association."

 

Heck isn't that the head MAGA talking? Pretty weird that David would be so uninformed about this, the talking heads on all the right-wing networks were saying the same thing.


The difference, of course, was in the circumstances, as well as the cooperation, or lack thereof, that Trump and Biden displayed when asked to return the documents.

 

So saying that Trump shouldn't be charged simply because Biden wasn't is a stupid goober argument. Very Trump. Very Davey Dog.

Originally posted by: David Miller

    Being charged is one thing, being found guilty for breaking the law is another. Apparently you can not see the hyprocisy of charging President Trump for the SAME offence that Biden was not going to be charged for. Are you that obtuse?


OK, let me understand your logic it's OK to say you can't charge me of a crime if you don't charge someone else of a crime, but it's not OK if you're convicted to say I should get a lesser sentence because someone else got a lesser sentence. That's really weird logic, does MAGA have a decoder ring for this stuff?

 

Regarding your feelings that charging Trump and not Biden is hypocrisy, Special Counsel Hur explained the difference between Trump and Biden, in his report:

 

"It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr. Trump, but several material 
distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and Mr. Biden's are clear. Unlike the evidence 
involving Mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if 
proven, would present serious aggravating facts. 


Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified 
documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According 
to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but 
he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about 
it. In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and 
the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his 
homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with the 
investigation."

 

Are you that obtuse that you don't recall this proof being explained to you in this thread:

 

Kitchen Sink- ENTER WITH CAUTION - Biden, Trump and classified documents (lasvegasadvisor.com)

Of course he remembers. But the only defense Davey Dog has to being schooled is to pretend it didn't happen.

I haven't watched Law and Order for a long time.  I heard that Sam Waterson has retired from the show.  Too bad, he was great.  Is Ice T still on the show?


Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

OK, let me understand your logic it's OK to say you can't charge me of a crime if you don't charge someone else of a crime, but it's not OK if you're convicted to say I should get a lesser sentence because someone else got a lesser sentence. That's really weird logic, does MAGA have a decoder ring for this stuff?

 

Regarding your feelings that charging Trump and not Biden is hypocrisy, Special Counsel Hur explained the difference between Trump and Biden, in his report:

 

"It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr. Trump, but several material 
distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and Mr. Biden's are clear. Unlike the evidence 
involving Mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if 
proven, would present serious aggravating facts. 


Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified 
documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According 
to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but 
he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about 
it. In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and 
the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his 
homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with the 
investigation."

 

Are you that obtuse that you don't recall this proof being explained to you in this thread:

 

Kitchen Sink- ENTER WITH CAUTION - Biden, Trump and classified documents (lasvegasadvisor.com)


    Well believe what you want. Biden did not even have the right to possess the documents - did you forget that? Secondly, President Trump did nothing with the documents but possess them, contrary to the lying media trying to make an issue of "what if he had ulterior motives" - they remained under lock and key with 24 hour surveillance and with the secret service at the residence. The documents Biden posessed were unsecured - in his garage and elsewhere - where anyone could have gotten them. Being President, Trump had every right to have the documents and was in the continuing process of going thru them and releasing those documents that were requested. The only reason Biden took the measures he did concerning the documents he illegally possessed was because he had shot his mouth off about President Trump having documents and that President Trump deserved to be prosecuted - a fate that he would also face if President Trump had been charged. And after all has been said and done, intelligent people know that the raid was just another attempt to make something out of nothing to discredit President Trump.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

You like what Hur said, got it, not a surprise. Thoughts on this that I also posted:

 

"OK, let me understand your logic it's OK to say you can't charge me of a crime if you don't charge someone else of a crime, but it's not OK if you're convicted to say I should get a lesser sentence because someone else got a lesser sentence. That's really weird logic, does MAGA have a decoder ring for this stuff?"


  In both instances you left out -"of the SAME crime" - got it? 

Originally posted by: David Miller

  In both instances you left out -"of the SAME crime" - got it? 


Oh the same crime, didn't Trump want Biden to be charged with the same crime?

Originally posted by: David Miller

    Well believe what you want. Biden did not even have the right to possess the documents - did you forget that? Secondly, President Trump did nothing with the documents but possess them, contrary to the lying media trying to make an issue of "what if he had ulterior motives" - they remained under lock and key with 24 hour surveillance and with the secret service at the residence. The documents Biden posessed were unsecured - in his garage and elsewhere - where anyone could have gotten them. Being President, Trump had every right to have the documents and was in the continuing process of going thru them and releasing those documents that were requested. The only reason Biden took the measures he did concerning the documents he illegally possessed was because he had shot his mouth off about President Trump having documents and that President Trump deserved to be prosecuted - a fate that he would also face if President Trump had been charged. And after all has been said and done, intelligent people know that the raid was just another attempt to make something out of nothing to discredit President Trump.


Well there's certification from a Trump lawyer, take note of the word "all":

 

A Trump Lawyer Certified All Classified Documents Were Returned. Then the FBI Found More.

A new DOJ filing said the discovery of additional documents at Mar-a-Largo casts doubt on the cooperation of Trump and his legal team.

August 31, 2022 at 11:38 AM

 

 

 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Well there's certification from a Trump lawyer, take note of the word "all":

 

A Trump Lawyer Certified All Classified Documents Were Returned. Then the FBI Found More.

A new DOJ filing said the discovery of additional documents at Mar-a-Largo casts doubt on the cooperation of Trump and his legal team.

August 31, 2022 at 11:38 AM

 

 

 


  The LAWYER said/certified that - not President Trump. The "discovery" only proves that there were documents that were possibly "missed" being found - it does not PROVE any lack of cooperation. Secondly, why did the FBI turn off the cameras and not allow any of President Trump's personnel remain in the rooms when the FBI was looking for documents? You figure it out...

This is an old and tired argument that was settled some time ago. Both Trump and Biden retained classified documents in their personal possession, and neither should have. The reason why Trump's conduct was criminal but Biden's wasn't was the vast difference in their behavior and level of cooperation when asked to return the documents.

 

Duhhhh, conservitards.

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