Three ways the indictment of Donald Trump hurts America

Originally posted by: David Miller

 You are full of shit.


This is Davey Dog's usual response when he's refuted and schooled.

Originally posted by: David Miller

 You are full of shit.


So, when you must choose between referenced facts (please look it up!) and your imagined dogma, you choose the dogma.  Willfully stupid is no way to live your life.  

Originally posted by: Dealer1

So, when you must choose between referenced facts (please look it up!) and your imagined dogma, you choose the dogma.  Willfully stupid is no way to live your life.  


It's the RepubliQ way and the Davey Dog way!

Originally posted by: Dealer1

So, when you must choose between referenced facts (please look it up!) and your imagined dogma, you choose the dogma.  Willfully stupid is no way to live your life.  


 It is apparently the way YOU live your life...


Originally posted by: David Miller

 It is apparently the way YOU live your life...


OOOOOH, devastating rejoinder! Almost as effective as LIAR LIAR LIAR!

 

When Davey Dog is refuted and schooled, his feeble wriggling is amusing.

Allow me to make the tricky observation. Based on a couple of reported polls, the indictment ticked Trump UP a couple of percentage points vs. Biden. 

 

So one could make the case that the indictment makes it more likely Trump will be elected in 2024.

 

Which, as the thread title says, is a way the indictment could hurt the country.

 

LOL. Sorry, guys. If I had to defend a guy who bankrupted four casinos or I had to defend Weekend at Bernie's, I'd have a hard time finding irony in all this myself.

Originally posted by: Robert Dietz

Allow me to make the tricky observation. Based on a couple of reported polls, the indictment ticked Trump UP a couple of percentage points vs. Biden. 

 

So one could make the case that the indictment makes it more likely Trump will be elected in 2024.

 

Which, as the thread title says, is a way the indictment could hurt the country.

 

LOL. Sorry, guys. If I had to defend a guy who bankrupted four casinos or I had to defend Weekend at Bernie's, I'd have a hard time finding irony in all this myself.


Well, really...how many people do you think there are who before, weren't going to vote for Trump but now intend to, because he was indicted?

 

Yeah, that's right: zero. The reality is that there are some people who have made their voting decisions based on the indictment, but the other way around: now, they're NOT going to vote for him. Maybe not very many, but still...There might be some MAGAs who feel compelled to "Rally Around the Turd" (and yeah, they'd probably use a slightly different slogan), but that will dissipate rapidly.

 

Polls return their results based on how the questions are asked, and the exact same question worded even slightly differently can return a much different result. So I'm quite skeptical.

 

What hurts America is that a former President's awful and egregious conduct has led to a massive criminal indictment. The indictment itself and the mechanism that generated it aren't to blame, any more than traffic laws or the cops that enforce them are to blame when someone gets a speeding ticket. But just to be clear: it would hurt America much, much more if there was no indictment.

 

 

Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

 

I hang out with a bunch of ETSU sociology professors, so I daresay that I have a pretty good feel for the whole design-of-polls effects. The profs teach probability; they design polls; hell, ETSU even has a money-making poll-taking center on campus. Having said that, the day I decide I know better than a poll is the day I hang up gambling based on statistics.

 

I can take results with a grain of salt, but deciding I know better than legit polls is not something I do.

Originally posted by: Robert Dietz

Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

 

I hang out with a bunch of ETSU sociology professors, so I daresay that I have a pretty good feel for the whole design-of-polls effects. The profs teach probability; they design polls; hell, ETSU even has a money-making poll-taking center on campus. Having said that, the day I decide I know better than a poll is the day I hang up gambling based on statistics.

 

I can take results with a grain of salt, but deciding I know better than legit polls is not something I do.


I was merely pointing out that this may have been correlation, not causation. The goobers are (somewhat) rallying to the support of the Turd. This may cause a few more to say they will vote for him than before. Doesn't mean they actually will.

 

I base this assumption on my belief--admittedly, that's all it is--that the goobers made up their minds long, long ago and there is literally nothing that Trump could do that would shake their idiot loyalty. And anyone on the fence is highly unlikely to have been swayed in his direction by recent events.

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