Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
It's a mathematical certainty that climate change is human-caused. Global temperatures have risen fifty years in a row.
Tell ya what, Aaron, drop on by and we'll flip a coin, call it right you get a buck, call it wrong I get a buck. When I win fifty times in a row, by your logic, it's just bad luck and nothing is influencing the coin
Even if humans have contributed to increased temperature and co2, does it really matter? No.
Aaron, you still haven't answered the question has to which scientific experts you trust and why.
And I think I know why you won't answer.
Originally posted by: Aaron
Even if humans have contributed to increased temperature and co2, does it really matter? No.
Wow, what a stupid question. Human actions can be changed, modified, or reversed. Furthermore, the gigantic mountain of data we've collected confirms that the cause of climate change is human activity since the Industrial Revolution. We also know what specific activities are responsible. So we simply have to curtail those activities.
Of fucking course it matters. If we don't fix it, millions of people will die. Shessh!
Originally posted by: tom
How much is human activity causing global warming? is it 1%, 5%, 50%? Nobody knows
Aaron how do you decide which scientists are right and which ones are wrong
Thus the problem. People are looking to spend trillions of dollars, upend the global economy & 100% change the way we generate power for a problem nobody knows what causes it.
All the forecasts about te end of the world by the greenies have never come to pass; thus the skepticism
Actually, stupid Tom, EVERYBODY knows, because we have lots and lots of good data. We know what global temperatures were pre- and post-Industrial Revolution. We can easily make numerical comparisons.
A transition to a cleaner world wouldn't "upend the global economy." Failing to do that, however, would.
No one, "the greenies" or anyone else, has forecast the end of the world due to climate change. Misery, suffering, economic catastrophe, and millions of deaths, yes. I don't really know how your tiny brain works, stupid Tom, but that seems like something we should try very hard to acoid.
Republicans point to the high costs of green energy as its fault. They ignore the cost of fossil fuel damage done to coastal states when they tally up the cost on that front....and increased insurance premiums. And I can understand that if you live in West z Virginia ....but Ron Desantis and the state of Florida have removed the phrase "climate change" from all government documentation. And the people of Florida vote for that shit ....and Rick Scott and Marco Rubio.
I'll be honest - it makes me struggle rendering empathy when people vote to make their own problems worse.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
Republicans point to the high costs of green energy as its fault. They ignore the cost of fossil fuel damage done to coastal states when they tally up the cost on that front....and increased insurance premiums. And I can understand that if you live in West z Virginia ....but Ron Desantis and the state of Florida have removed the phrase "climate change" from all government documentation. And the people of Florida vote for that shit ....and Rick Scott and Marco Rubio.
I'll be honest - it makes me struggle rendering empathy when people vote to make their own problems worse.
Well, as I may have said before, in a perfect world, MAGAs wouldn't receive federal disaster aid...in no small part because, tangentially at least, they've brought the disaster upon themselves.
I continue to be tickled at how loudly the anti-BIG GUMMINT faction bleats for federal help when there's a disaster. I guess government isn't inherently evil after all, as long as it writes you a check.
We Democrats do, perhaps, have a duty to save the STOOOPIDs in Florida and other MAGA cesspits from themselves. We're all Americans. So I happily remit my tax dollars in order for Cletus to rebuild his TRUMP/VANCE display when he gets flooded out.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Wow, what a stupid question. Human actions can be changed, modified, or reversed. Furthermore, the gigantic mountain of data we've collected confirms that the cause of climate change is human activity since the Industrial Revolution. We also know what specific activities are responsible. So we simply have to curtail those activities.
Of fucking course it matters. If we don't fix it, millions of people will die. Shessh!
More people will die of cold than heat. More people will die due to high taxation, expensive energy and starvation not to mention war than of a modest 1.75* by 2100 should that even occur.
So, no, we can't fix it anyway. Great orb in the sky just happens to be missing from your models, the ebb and flow of heat and cold on this planet is primarily controlled by the sun.
Originally posted by: Aaron
More people will die of cold than heat. More people will die due to high taxation, expensive energy and starvation not to mention war than of a modest 1.75* by 2100 should that even occur.
So, no, we can't fix it anyway. Great orb in the sky just happens to be missing from your models, the ebb and flow of heat and cold on this planet is primarily controlled by the sun.
But, DUHHH, the sun is a constant; its intensity and duration haven't varied for the entirety of human existence. So any overall variation--as in, CLIMATE change--is due to human activity.
As usual stupid kevin is full of poop
we have lots and lots of good data. We know what global temperatures were pre- and post-Industrial Revolution.
There is no data prior ot 1880
A transition to a cleaner world wouldn't "upend the global economy." Failing to do that, however, would
Changing over to a technology that does not exist on a mass scale does destroy the economy. We have spent $8b for 8 electric chargers. If Florida was on solar power the entire state would have no electricity for a week
Misery, suffering, economic catastrophe, and millions of deaths, yes
Her are a few predictions of the world ending
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-spectacularly-wrong-apocalyptic-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-2/
Green New Deal sponsor Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The latter said, “The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.” Says Thunberg in her new book, “Around 2030 we will be in a position to set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control that will lead to the end of our civilization as we know it.”
Remember global cooling from the 1970's, we were going to starve to death. Paul Erlich said the planet was overpopulated
Al Gore said the global ice cap was going to melt
In January, 2006 — when promoting his Oscar-winning (yes, Oscar-winning) documentary, An Inconvenient Truth — Gore declared that unless we took “drastic measures” to reduce greenhouse gasses, the world would reach a “point of no return” in a mere ten years. He called it a “true planetary emergency.” Well, the ten years passed today, we’re still here, and the climate activists have postponed the apocalypse. Again.
Tom barfs the same shit about climate change as Ron DeSantis. Who needs NASA scientists and their countless years and data points of climate data? We have Tom and his thermometer.
Why should our tax dollars go to fund states rebuild the coastlines destroyed by environmental forces they live in denial of? Makes me wonder. Lots of good people in Florida - unfortunately they are the minority.
