Originally posted by: Mark
No, it is not. Our rights and the blueprint of our system of government is the backbone of the Constitution.
"Rights" based on common sense.
Originally posted by: Mark
No, it is not. Our rights and the blueprint of our system of government is the backbone of the Constitution.
"Rights" based on common sense.
Originally posted by: David Miller
"Rights" based on common sense.
There is no "common sense" clause in the Constitution. If there were, you would have to look at what was considered common sense in the 1780s which would be radically different than what we consider common sense in 2026.
Originally posted by: David Miller
"Rights" based on common sense.
It's kind of horrifying, and definitely disgusting, that Millerscum puts "rights" in quotation marks.
Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya
It's pretty stupid to think a 9 month pregnant foreigner could enter the USA and poop out a kid who immediately becomes a US citizen. But we'll have to let SCOTUS determine how our laws work. If you support that kind of nonsense, why have a border; but I don't need to ask a liberal that, they have no regard for sovereignty and hate America.
CBP will deny in most cases, but many just sneak in anyway. https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article1838?language=en_US
The 14th amendment Citizenship Clause as written is unequivocal...
It's been challenged in court several times and those were all rejected. There are legitimate arguments such as intended application when originally written vs more current society /culture eras, birth tourism, definition of 'jurisdiction' and others. Any efforts to include these considerations will require new law via constitutional amendment; the 14th amendment " is the law" whether we approve or not, and the text is quite clear. An executive order isn't enough to overturn it, imo.
This is all a portion of the desire of US citizens to see overall immigration reform from our esteemed government /Congress during an era where the scoundrels can't even pass a budget bill due to polarization.
14th amendment text link ...
constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/
So it looked like there were 5.5 million registered voters, and a possible 9.5 million living outside of the US in 2022, and 2024. Agian they are looking forward to new births, so anyone already born here would be grandfathered in. I know some people here are in favor of judicial hearings to deport people here illegaly, would anyone object to a judicial hearing to grant citizinship to a baby born here on vacation. or tempary visa
Originally posted by: Brent Kline
So it looked like there were 5.5 million registered voters, and a possible 9.5 million living outside of the US in 2022, and 2024. Agian they are looking forward to new births, so anyone already born here would be grandfathered in. I know some people here are in favor of judicial hearings to deport people here illegaly, would anyone object to a judicial hearing to grant citizinship to a baby born here on vacation. or tempary visa
Why even present something that is unconstitutional? We have to follow the Constitution full stop.
Originally posted by: Mark
Doesn't matter who supports it or doesn't support it as that is what the Constitution requires.
Mmmhmm, "Shall not be infringed". Boo yah
Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya
Mmmhmm, "Shall not be infringed". Boo yah
I wouldn't sneer at the Constitution. It has kept a lot of awful things from happening to us.
