Too soon

There are cracks showing in social distancing and lockdown efforts--in the 42 states that took such measures.

 

Gawhgia was the guinea pig this weekend. However, only about 10% of the businesses that we're eligible to reopen actually did so. And very few people patronized those businesses. The people of Georgia apparently have more sense than the governor.

 

However, in several other states--mostly Trumper territory--lockdowns are set to expire in the next few days and the governors have said they will not be extended.

 

What I'm afraid will happen is that infections will increase--but only after a week or two goes by without more cases showing up. So people will say "SEE? There was nothing to worry about!" And then the second wave will hit.

 

These people will travel--many won't know they have the virus. And they'll infect people in more responsible states. It won't take much to negate all the progress we've made so far.

 

If I were governor of my state, I would ban all entry from non-lockdown states. We have a responsible and smart state government and as a consequence,  have relatively few cases and deaths. But if Bucky Bucktooth travels here from Trump Land and runs around coughing on everybody, all our progress will be reversed.

Edited on Apr 26, 2020 7:55pm

"when to open" is the million dollar question.   The fact is businesses are opening...in all states, no just Georgia.

 

  The public will be watching with bated breath to see if masks, social distancing, and constant cleansing will be enough to keep the virus from spiking like it did initially.    That and locking down the most vulnerable people.   

Anecdotal data from other countries seems to suggest it does.   I hope so.    Because if it doesn't we are looking at September as the time at which testing will be deployed enough to satisfy your requirements...and nobody has their head wrapped around the economic cost, bailout, or consequences of that.

 

 

 

 

Several thoughts. I think people will be scared to go out even if they open. They also might not have the money to go out.  All it will take is one or two outbreaks and people will retreat home.  When that happens the economic impact will be very hard because now when they try to open again people will be more scared.

 

Another question is what are we going to do with all the high-risk people. We say many are old and retired but many are younger people with Type 1 diabetes or other chronic illnesses. Are we going to lock them up. How will they live and get money to survive?  I do not have answers I wish I did 

If Kevin knew anything about the constitution he would know that governors can't ban interstate travel. 

So Kevin just stay in your basement bunker & have mommy deliver your food. 


The answer is to continue lockdowns until we reach a point, statistically, similar to other countries that have been successful in easing restrictions.

 

In China, that took three months. We'll soon know how it works in Europe. We'll have lots of good data.

 

In the meantime, the federal government can keep everyone afloat. The reason why people are panicking is that Trump has told us flat-out that the federal government won't be helping--and the Republicans have tried, with varying degrees of success, to divert all aid money to big (donor) corporations.

 

So people look to their states for guidance and help--and if their governors have been good loyal Trumpers and said the coronavirus is no big deal and can be cured by gargling bleach, they start to despair. They say, we might as well go back to work.

 

As I pointed out earlier, in Trumper states, only 1 in 4 workers qualifies for unemployment insurance. The federal boost doesn't help you if you don't qualify under state rules, which haven't been changed.

Originally posted by: tom

If Kevin knew anything about the constitution he would know that governors can't ban interstate travel. 

So Kevin just stay in your basement bunker & have mommy deliver your food. 


If Tom knew anything whatsoever, he'd know that governors have broad emergency powers, including to ban travel. They can control who enters their states.

 

If Trumper Land turns into an infection hive, we should build Da Wall around those states.

 

And am I afraid of the coronavirus, Tom? Damn right I am. If you're not, well, we already know you're dumber than a box of rocks.

 

 

Same old line of made up bullshit by Kevin. His llitany of lies ", which haven't been changed", continue ad nauseam.

Stop the panic.  We should put the bulk of our resources into protecting the most vulnerableThe Aged and those with chronic health problems.  Let everyone else get back to work. 

 

The data is in:  The rest of the population is at very little risk of serious complications from Covid 19.  A large percent don't even know they have it.  Why ruin the economy and injure others who can't get critial health care like cancer screenings or chemo by locking down everyone when we could simply protect the vulerable? 

 

I think this guy makes a lot of sense.  He isn't advocating large gatherings, but ending the total lockdown that's happening in many states.  We're at a point where it's counter productive.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

 

 

Edited on Apr 27, 2020 11:48am

It all comes down to how important you consider 50,000 or 100,000 "extra" deaths to be.

 

We can't "open up" without increasing the risk to vulnerable groups. You see, it's all about social responsibility. Young, healthy people are champing at the bit to get back to work, and yes, they would be running only a small risk. But they would be deciding to increase the risk for the vulnerable population.

 

I don't feel that my economic well-being is so important that I'm entitled to endanger others to achieve it.

Edited on Apr 27, 2020 4:32pm

 "I'm entitle" ---- Please define "I'm entitle" wordmaster....
 

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