Trump and Putin hold first in-person talks since Ukraine invasion, focus on ending conflict

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Thanks, David, your input is well stupid. Go find a meme, I hear Facebook has a bunch that they will feed you like the MAGA swine that you are.

 

By the way, I had a good day at the casino. I was down $270 on Bonus Poker, then hit two 4 OAK Aces, then 4 OAK 2's, Q's, and 6's, to book a $100 win. It was a good day. Aah, to live in the free state of CO, where adults can do what they want.


But could David do what he wants?

Tom, we had a solution keep our troops out of it and supply Ukraine weapons. You and your pals here at the sink believed Trump would end the war on day one as promised. I will tell you the same thing I told David earlier in the thead.  Admit Trump was foolish and naïve for believing he could end the war on day one or even quickly and that you were foolish and naïve for believing it.  It is not up to Democrats to come up with a solution to a problem Trump created.  

 

He is going to be in power for another three years so it is up to him as President to come up with a solution.  Sadly, he won't because he will never concede to himself that he screwed up so he will just keep trying to kiss Putin's ass and hope for the best. 

Edited on Aug 16, 2025 6:50pm

Amazingly, the Turd thinks that any resolution, any meaningful outcome, could be achieved without Ukraine's/Zelensky's participation. He really did think that he and Putin could just cook up some kind of ultimatum and Zelensky would have no choice but to roll over and surrender.

 

Trump has never had to face any kind of challenge in his entire life. He's never had to sacrifice anything. Maybe that's why he doesn't understand. Zelensky is ten times the man Trump is.

we had a solution keep our troops out of it and supply Ukraine weapons

 

The problem with that "solution" is with 4x the population putin can keep attacking and the Ukraine will eventually run out of soldiers.  Adding to the mix are N. Korean soldiers which have been coming in.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Amazingly, the Turd thinks that any resolution, any meaningful outcome, could be achieved without Ukraine's/Zelensky's participation. He really did think that he and Putin could just cook up some kind of ultimatum and Zelensky would have no choice but to roll over and surrender.

 

 

 


Hell, it worked for Hitler and Chamberlain in Czechoslovakia, didn't it?

any meaningful outcome, could be achieved without Ukraine's/ZelenskZelensky 's participation.

 

Stupid kevin is ignoring that Zelensky and other European leaders will be in DC tomorrow to continue the talks

Originally posted by: tom

any meaningful outcome, could be achieved without Ukraine's/ZelenskZelensky 's participation.

 

Stupid kevin is ignoring that Zelensky and other European leaders will be in DC tomorrow to continue the talks


Then Trump and Putin's meeting was meaningless nonsense.

 

Will Trump and Putin be in DC? If not, the talks aren't "continuing." Talks don't "continue" if the participants change.

 

Stupid, stupid Trump-licking Tom.

Originally posted by: tom

we had a solution keep our troops out of it and supply Ukraine weapons

 

The problem with that "solution" is with 4x the population putin can keep attacking and the Ukraine will eventually run out of soldiers.  Adding to the mix are N. Korean soldiers which have been coming in.


Stupid Tom doesn't know much about modern warfare (or anything else). Conflicts are decided based on equipment, weapons, technology, and logistics. Not to mention finances. Russia is inferior to Ukraine in many of those aspects. And a few slaves from N Korea won't make a difference.

 

Another major factor is morale and public support for the war. The Russian public doesn't want the war. The Ukrainian public knows what will happen to them if they lose or surrender.

Then Trump and Putin's meeting was meaningless nonsense

 

That was the first step; which is 1 more than the biden gang did in 3+ years.

 

Conflicts are decided based on equipment, weapons, technology, and logistics.

If that was the case then why are the Ukranians losing ground?

 

The Ukrainian public knows what will happen to them if they lose or surrender.

 

Turns out Ukranian support is flagging & why do they have a draft?

men ages 18 to 60 are currently barred from leaving the country.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-needs-soldiers-fight-russia-men-dodging-draft-zelenskyy-rcna152121

 

Not to mention finances.

The Ukraine is being propped by the West and Russia is being propped up by China/India

 Russia is inferior to Ukraine in many of those aspects

 

Stupid kevin

Trump's meeting with Putin accomplished nothing. It couldn't have accomplished jack shit without Zelensky's full inclusion and participation. So it wasn't a "first step" to anything.

 

Ukraine is losing ground because the US has cut off weapons shipments and financial aid. But if Tom's idiot nonsense about population ratios being the sole determinant of who wins is true, why have they been able to resist for over three years?

 

Not everybody in Ukraine wants to fight. But hardly anybody in Russia wants to. The difference in morale is huge.

 

The financial aid provided to Ukraine by the US and EU is 125 times that provided to Russia by China and India.

 

Stupid, stupid Tom.

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